tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post2666961403321818895..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: Marvel and DC: Side-by-Side in 1969Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-48707926089957153272011-07-14T00:28:51.241-05:002011-07-14T00:28:51.241-05:00It's like I posted on the first segment of &qu...It's like I posted on the first segment of "Side-by-Side in the 1960's"...<br /><br />Marvel wins the whole decade, hands down! Nuff said.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16988016825582035390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-48768767211173695192011-07-13T13:52:18.584-05:002011-07-13T13:52:18.584-05:00I read the Doomsters/pollution issue of JLA as a l...I read the Doomsters/pollution issue of JLA as a little kid. It was my introduction to both Black Canary and the Adams version of GA. It's the Western version of the Vigilante who, very oddly, seemed to be positioned as a momentous guest star. Anyone know why? Did DC have plans to revive the character in a Seventies context? I know Vig featured in Adventure in the early 70s- were those stories in a contemporary setting?Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-24027952143029655042011-07-13T11:21:36.773-05:002011-07-13T11:21:36.773-05:00Like J.A., I first read these stories in the Marve...Like J.A., I first read these stories in the Marvel Super Action reprint series od the early 80s. They were some of the first comics I ever bought on my own and they really hooked me: Some of Ropy thomas' best story-telling and great art from John Buscema, GHene Colan and Barry Windsor-Smith.<br /><br />It also took me years before I grasped that the Squadron Sinister were JLA spoofs. In fact, I don't think I made the connection until the Marl Geunwald mini-series of the mid-eighties!<br /><br />Regarding the X-Men and Neal Adams, I recently bought a collection of those stories and was kind of disappointed. The art is great, but Roy's stories just weren't as good as his Avengers stuff. I think the basic problem is that the original X-Men just aren't as exciting of a team, no matter who is doing them.Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-72656702864417139902011-07-13T11:21:27.111-05:002011-07-13T11:21:27.111-05:001969 was an interesting year to me. Not much more ...1969 was an interesting year to me. Not much more than carrying from previous years, but the Thor/Galactus issues were another set of vintage comics I was collecting. Being a big fan of awesome covers, those Thor issues had some spectacular and dramatic cover art, much more than say Ironman or other Marvel mainstays. Not to disclude DC, the Adams Superboy covers are also VERY bold, with vibrant covers and compelling flavor. <br /><br />Adams has been a favorite, but it depends on the book. His jaunt on Avengers never jelled with me (he also could never draw Ben Grimm well, but that's a toughie for anyone..). To be fair, it's more so the Kirby's, Romita's, and Buscema's of Marvel strongly setting the tone of 'how Marvel characters should look', more than any hit against Adams. I did like him on X-Men and nearly every DC character.<br /><br />As for the Distinquished Competition, they had the heavier burden of re-establishing credibility and keep readership up after the Batman series left, providing a huge cash cow for the previous 3 years.., basically both a blessing and a liability for serious readership. Gratefully, DC allowed Denny and Neal to move forward with the GL/GA re-focus, despite the heavy-handed preachiness. This also unfortunately permeated into the few JLA comics I had from '69 whining about larger-scale world polution, over-population, more vintage guilt trips. Enough already. <br /><br />Nick Cardy's still my DC artist of choice for Silver/Bronze ~ LOVE his TT #22 cover (probably the best vintage Titans cover ever..), and really enjoyed him on Aquaman until Aparo took over. Honorable mention also goes to his covers for TT #24 and 28.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-36760664365301734822011-07-13T11:08:38.420-05:002011-07-13T11:08:38.420-05:00Having only caught up with The Wiching Hour, House...Having only caught up with The Wiching Hour, House of Secrets and House of Mystery in the DC Showcase reprints, I've also wondered why Marvel's versions just didn't catch on. After Chamber of Darkness and Tower of Shadows, there were Supernatural Thrillers and Crypt of Shadows; not forgetting the Kitby/Ditko reprints Monsters on the Prowl, Fear, etc. Why did the anthology format work for DC for so long but not for Marvel?<br />By the way, I'm also a fan of masked Dr. Strange.I recently read the theory that he's based on the Golden Age Vision.Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-16734368673932895052011-07-13T09:59:21.255-05:002011-07-13T09:59:21.255-05:00J.A. Morris, it was YEARS before I realized that t...J.A. Morris, it was YEARS before I realized that the Squardon Sinister were JLA doppelgangers!<br /><br />I might choose Adams second only to George Perez. Adams was better at drawing faces, but Perez show such tremendous detail, and his group shots, with a large cast of characters, are amazing.<br /><br />Yes, there was a JLA issue where the JLA fought foes with Avengers-like powers. In JLA #75, the JLA fought evil counterparts of themselves. Batman throws a garbage can lid (like Captain America's shield) and evil Hawkman calls himself a "Man of iron". Apparently, Denny O'Neil and Roy Thomas were chatting about the idea of having their respective teams appear in each other's books in some fashion. Apparently, Marvel must have given more creative control than DC at that time (one reason they were to far ahead of DC) and Roy got to create new characters, whereas Denny had to settle for some lame references.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-49098422782219973252011-07-13T09:23:20.736-05:002011-07-13T09:23:20.736-05:00dbutler16, what you said about Adams isn't her...dbutler16, what you said about Adams isn't heresy at all(and I'm a huge fan of the Byrne/Austin issues). I've said it here before, as far as I'm concerned, Adams is the best comic artist ever,period. When I want to show non-comic fans an example of great comic art, I show them some of Adams' work. <br />Those X-men issues he drew might not be the best stories of all time(Sauron's origin is that he was bitten by a "magic pteranodon?), but they're not terrible either, and they still look great. <br /><br />I'm a big fan of the Squadron Sinister/Supreme too. I first read that Avengers story when it was reprinted in 'Marvel Super Action' #31. Silly as it sounds, I read several stories before I realized they were just Justice League doppelgängers. That's a tribute to the creativity of Roy Thomas. I still haven't read the Avengers story that introduces the Squadron Supreme, but it's on my list.<br />Too bad the Bronze Age never gave us a Time Travel epic where the Squadron Supreme fought the Imperial Guard! I guess they didn't want to tweak DC(and DC's lawyers!) too much.<br /><br />Wasn't there a JLA story shortly after that where they fought villains who were similar to Thor and other Avengers?J.A. Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15800901321134394272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-59325600590523621862011-07-13T07:28:01.846-05:002011-07-13T07:28:01.846-05:00Ah, how I miss the floating heads.
I’ll have to c...Ah, how I miss the floating heads.<br /><br />I’ll have to check out some of those 60s Thor stories.<br /><br />I agree with Karen on Dr Strange’s mask. Actually, Dr Fate has one of my al time favorite costumes. <br /><br />As far as Neal Adams on the X-Men, this may be heresy but in spite of his short tenure there, he just might be my all-time favorite X-Men artist. The faces he drew were incredible! You can just see and even feel the emotions of the characters.<br /><br />An awful lot of non-superhero mentions this year, between the romance stuff from Marvel and the horror and western stuff from DC.<br /><br />I love the Squadron Sinister/Supreme! It started off as a little private joke, but turned into something pretty good for Marvel!<br /><br />I also agree with Edo that DC was behind Marvel in getting to the Bronze Age, just as they were behind Marvel in introducing minority heroes.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-16014511889541173012011-07-13T06:18:03.247-05:002011-07-13T06:18:03.247-05:00I agree with your comments about the general super...I agree with your comments about the general superiority at this point. This is in fact why I think that by 1969 the Bronze Age was in full swing at Marvel, while it would take DC a year or two (at least) to catch up.<br />Also interesting that you mentioned the Prowler's debut in ASM; the first Spider-man comic I remember buying was the issue of Marvel Tales that reprinted that story.Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.com