tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post4621889545606050591..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: BAB Classic: Three Cows Shot Me Down! Avengers #95Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-70914429681810882132014-01-27T20:43:00.504-06:002014-01-27T20:43:00.504-06:00A couple of quick points, Clint did refer to Trito...A couple of quick points, Clint did refer to Triton as a second hand sub-mariner (sub-mareener, sub-mahriner) so Clint could be referencing Triton's appearance on behalf of Namor at the UN. <br /><br />Karen, you asked about how this story would play out in modern comics. Operation Galatic Storm was spread over 21 chapters and 6/7 books, I forget. I believe it was 6, let me check........7 books. <br /><br /><br />The Prowler (stumbling through his library and tripping on his cape).<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-67395309505030679322014-01-27T14:32:32.027-06:002014-01-27T14:32:32.027-06:00Maybe Cap's shirt is just a shirt with a desig...Maybe Cap's shirt is just a shirt with a design on it that looks like chainmail. I think I've seen Cap T-shirts like that.<br /><br />Or just call it unstable molecules.<br /><br />I like the "frame" covers. Prevents art from getting cut off at top, bottom, and sides. Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-48671295512368176782014-01-27T14:08:37.459-06:002014-01-27T14:08:37.459-06:00This is one of my favorite issues from one of my f...This is one of my favorite issues from one of my favorite arcs from my favorite title. <br />That splash page has always stood out to me. In fact, as good as the cover is, the splash overwhelms it in my mind. <br />Speaking of the cover: The way that Maximus is holding Cap's tunic brings to mind the inconsistency of what it is made of. If it is supposed to be one piece, as it appears to be here, why does it have the scale mail pattern? If it is supposed to be a half-shirt made of scale mail, then Maximus should not be able to grab it this way. Not enough to distract from a great cover, but just an observation. Maybe someone here can enlighten me if there is an in-universe explanation for Cap's tunic design. <br />Also, I see it gets disparaged a lot here, but I never minded the framed cover period. It puts me in the mind of collecting art. <br /><br />-PaulPaulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-73832507646175094832014-01-27T11:40:03.083-06:002014-01-27T11:40:03.083-06:00In regards to Triton's quiet nobility, I frank...In regards to Triton's quiet nobility, I frankly haven't followed him much (and haven't gotten the Inhumans masterworks yet..), but to me he came across best back in FF 62, being picked to save Reed Richards from the Negative Zone AND holding his own against Blastaar.<br /><br />david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-85401106879767394612014-01-27T10:57:15.519-06:002014-01-27T10:57:15.519-06:00Triton looks great in this issue!
Just another re...Triton looks great in this issue!<br /><br />Just another reminder - when I go back and read old issues I am always amazed at how much they cram into one as compared to today.<br /><br />I have been going through Bronze Age ASMs (the comics I grew up on) - and loving it.mr. oyolahttp://themiddlespaces.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-80111829147457285022014-01-27T10:56:14.283-06:002014-01-27T10:56:14.283-06:00Garett, I always wondered why there was something ...Garett, I always wondered why there was something familiar about Savage Dragon...Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-73028828965252622032014-01-27T10:39:22.398-06:002014-01-27T10:39:22.398-06:00Striking images of Triton and the Vision here, as ...Striking images of Triton and the Vision here, as mentioned by others. Pretty obvious that Triton found his way into Eric Larsen's mind to create Savage Dragon. I've always liked the look of Triton.Garettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-50560683376390385112014-01-27T10:23:17.450-06:002014-01-27T10:23:17.450-06:00I'd say again, without even comparing this to ...I'd say again, without even comparing this to the other chapters of this saga, that this issue is arguably the best of the lot.<br /><br />Best cover (despite the framed concept), best splash, best consistant beautiful art and nice dialog/pacing. <br /><br />I just plunked money down on a VF copy of Avengers 100 last week, this may have to be my 'big purchase' next month. It may be wasting money to some, but when there's a monumental comic with an awesome cover, I'll treat myself to buying at least a VF condition issue.<br /><br />Again, I don't have a huge collection (quantity-wise) by most folks standards here at BAB, but what I do have is gorgeous. One thing that helped my budget a lot is, except for a handful of Stern-Buscema Avengers and Perez-drawn Teen Titans, I have little if any '80s or later comics. I just focused on Silver and '70 Bronze.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-64893587680731589852011-11-19T22:39:24.505-06:002011-11-19T22:39:24.505-06:00Mark --
We'll probably take a break from the ...Mark --<br /><br />We'll probably take a break from the Avengers for awhile, as Karen and I do like to keep somewhat of a balance to the content on the BAB. However, if it's Barry Smith art you're after, you'll probably see us cover his work again soon but in the pages of Conan the Barbarian -- that's on the docket for December.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-30790403178838469032011-11-18T21:47:51.376-06:002011-11-18T21:47:51.376-06:00I'm realy enjoying your reviews of these clasi...I'm realy enjoying your reviews of these clasic issues, but am especially hoping that you will go on to showcase the three wonderful Thomas/Smith issues that followed the Kree/Skrull war. Avengers #98 is probably my favorite single issue of the title's whole history, and the three-part story culminating in Avengers# 100 was a spectacularly satisfying adventure, with art that rivalled the best of Adams, to me at least.vancouver marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-28745769083297041502011-11-14T23:04:17.630-06:002011-11-14T23:04:17.630-06:00That opening splash with Triton was pretty magnifi...That opening splash with Triton was pretty magnificent, and overall more great storytelling by Roy & Neil -- really loved that scene where Clint keeps Vizh & Shellhead from coming to blows, sounding far more mature than he'd usually been portrayed up to this point. Regarding the cover, very nice work from the elder Buscema and it follows the trend of the previous 3 covers in highlighting the recently returned Big Three. Of course, I don't think I'm giving much away by noting a very angry Vision takes over the next cover!Fred W. Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07602124919964053532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-21866804323601616002011-11-14T22:14:40.159-06:002011-11-14T22:14:40.159-06:00"One nitpick: Goliath says he recognized Trit..."One nitpick: Goliath says he recognized Triton from an appearance at the U.N., but a page later, Triton tells us that Black Bolt was exploring human cities in order to figure out how to "apprise the human race of our existence."<br /><br /><br />I could be wrong, but hadn't Triton appeared at the UN on behalf of Namor in the Sub-Mariner title, when Roy was writing it (which would place it happening before the events in Avengers #95)?B Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18016629838915185467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-85813979632368799532011-11-14T20:08:52.815-06:002011-11-14T20:08:52.815-06:00Nope, it was probably just a busy mornin' for ...Nope, it was probably just a busy mornin' for me.., stuff happens. <br /><br />And yes, today's such an awesome column ish to comment on. <br /><br />Doug, Karen, you folks have really made this such a 'rockin' forum for us all here..! Thanks much!david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-58897767224874871602011-11-14T14:09:41.438-06:002011-11-14T14:09:41.438-06:00I hadn't really paid attention to the IM pose ...I hadn't really paid attention to the IM pose before. Now I see what the brouhaha is about.<br /><br />Say, general comment in regard to commenters losing their posts, etc. A few days ago I actually went to the comments section of our control panel and noticed that five of the comments for which Karen and I had received email notifications were put into the spam folder. All five were legit and so were enabled/published right away. Sadly, some of them had been quarantined for quite awhile. David, whatever just happened to you is not the same thing, but it did prompt me to check again. Hopefully this will not be an ongoing problem. <br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-26859310285704685812011-11-14T13:43:56.795-06:002011-11-14T13:43:56.795-06:00I had a lot of comments composed before, but didn&...I had a lot of comments composed before, but didn't get saved for some odd reason..<br /><br />To summaraze..: Just a beautiful, jam-packed issue. And when I say 'beautiful'.., I really mean Adam's at his best for this saga.. From the opening with Triton to the beautiful Vision page shown ("Have you forgotten..."), very stiring and way cool. <br /><br />In fact, I dare say that most of this majestic art distracts from the story at hand; seriously, I'm spending way too much time looking at the panel to really get a bead on the story development. <br /><br />Is that a dig on the story-telling..? Hard to say.<br /><br />Wonderful Buscema cover, one of his best Avenger covers I suspect, but there's SO many to choose from.<br /><br />Dougie..: SAME thought on that Ironman pose that I thought for years. With that hand on his knee, it always looked.., well, 'not manly'.<br /><br />All in all, perhaps the best ish of the saga.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-67307083887495463702011-11-14T13:02:24.640-06:002011-11-14T13:02:24.640-06:00I've always thought Triton looked coo, too, Ka...I've always thought Triton looked coo, too, Karen.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-28470262600284873072011-11-14T11:54:13.344-06:002011-11-14T11:54:13.344-06:00Due to the vagaries of shipping in Scotland, this ...Due to the vagaries of shipping in Scotland, this is one of only two issues of the K/S War I ever owned (97 being the first); confusingly, it's therefore the second part I read. Bought in the summer of '72, I think, from a small general store Galloway.<br /> It's one of my favourite early- 70s issues. I love Maximus's look and his tragic past. Triton looks amazing (no pun intended). My only gripe is Iron Man's pose in the final panel: it always looked awkward and unnatural to me.<br /><br />(And my captcha is "schemish"! In West Central Scotland, a "schemie" is an uncouth, possibly criminally- inclined person from a deprived urban housing estate, or "housing scheme". Very apt!)Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-54169110319623894642011-11-14T10:13:03.318-06:002011-11-14T10:13:03.318-06:00Can you imagine how long it would take to tell the...Can you imagine how long it would take to tell the K/S War in today's decompressed style? And how many spin-off titles there would be? It would flow over into Amazing Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Thor, Iron Man...when it was finally done, a year would have passed and there'd be 44 different issues total. <br /><br />I'm more than happy with Roy 'cramming' stuff in!<br /><br />KarenKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-65950121608553375822011-11-14T08:10:27.282-06:002011-11-14T08:10:27.282-06:00Surprised that cover is wholly Buscema. It’s unmis...Surprised that cover is wholly Buscema. It’s unmistakably his, but the figurework, esp. Iron Man’s crumpled contortions and Maximus’s stance look more like Adam’s layouts to me. <br /><br />Not sure I found Triton driving a stretch, guys. Wasn’t Attilan super-advanced? Weren’t they flying around in rocket-cars? <br /><br />This may be my single favourite comic of all time for art. Layouts, storyboard, inking, colour, everything. There are so many superb panels. The opener of Triton, the body language as they argue, Clint’s big hand breaking up IM & Vizh, as you say, the use of Black Bolt’s trademark blue to suggest we are inside his world inside his reverie, I seem to remember BB breaking the dome (not pictured here) was great as well and then that final, Scarlet O’Hara fist to the sky. I also loved the way Adams did Vision’s cape swirling about him both on page 7 and in the final panel. <br /><br />Karen, Edo – you both comment on the speed with which things happen and how much plot there is rammed in, but bear in mind that they had intended to go with the squarebound format and a lot more pages, so I suspect it was truncated. <br /><br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-56984760455915408542011-11-14T07:38:58.526-06:002011-11-14T07:38:58.526-06:00Again, another action-packed issue. In fact, this ...Again, another action-packed issue. In fact, this one seems to have a little too much stuffed into it, what with all of the flashbacks and Inhumans references from Amazing Adventures. But I have to commend Roy Thomas - he really made an effort to quickly explain the various threads of the story to potential first-time readers.<br />And I have to agree about the art on that Black Bolt flashback sequence - Adams really shines here.Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.com