tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post7714310168604806712..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: ...and Black Canary Makes ThreeDoughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-56601796291409953862017-06-30T08:10:06.940-05:002017-06-30T08:10:06.940-05:00This story came out in the same month as the film ...This story came out in the same month as the film "Joe" was released the month after Kent State it should be noted. July 1970 was not a good month to be a Hippy. "Joe" has an obviously parallel plot about a couple of vigilantes tracking down a brainwashed woman to a cult of long haired freaks for a violent confrontation with the counter-culture Charlie Manson on the cover of Rolling Stone had become the poster boy for. The Hippies in "Joe" are basically apolitical sex and drug addicts without any sort of super-villain master plan like Joshua-Manson's idea of starting a race war to kill off everybody but them and replacing Green Arrow as the preachy violent vigilante Joe ends up murdering all the hippies in a mass shooting a large part of the audience was cheering for much like opinion polls of the time reported lots of supporters for the Kent State shootings. As the massive celebrity drug overdoses and global AIDS epidemic later in the decade confirm, along with the People's Temple mass suicide and the Communist Killing Fields exceeding the body count for both sides during the entire Vietnam War, there were some legitimate reasons for the Silent Majority's issues with the Counter Culture...even among Civil Rights supporters like Queen and Jordan and Denny O'Neill. The problem I have with Denny's self-righteous sermons as somebody who actually spent a couple years living in a New Age Hippy Cult after I got out of the Army in the 1970's is that guilt trips are inherently dysfunctional. In<br />real life nobody has all the answers and we all have to learn from experience what works best for us and what doesn't and adapt to new situations. We don't need scapegoats to blame when a plan doesn't work out like we wanted it to. Instead of wasting time looking for somebody to blame we need to focus on learning from problems we run into how to deal with them better the next time we run into a similar problem like our body learns how to fix or prevent damages. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-26884961343407958682016-07-30T23:32:56.126-05:002016-07-30T23:32:56.126-05:00That would be JLA 167 or 168 and it was GL's b...That would be JLA 167 or 168 and it was GL's body possessed by Prof. Zoom aka Reverse Flash so not really Hal and Dinah. Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-34135552958306908012013-03-10T15:20:27.657-05:002013-03-10T15:20:27.657-05:00Ok I have googled this countless times and I cant ...Ok I have googled this countless times and I cant find an answer, maybe you know. In what issue of ehat comic did Hal Jordan and Dinah kiss??? Ive seen the picture and I want the issue so bad I can taste it!!! Im only 22 and I have so little knowledge of the classics.... And before yiu ask I want it as a wedding gift for my fiance hes a HUGE Hal fan and I adore Dinah...MommaFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14511575905364545961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-86257587016961502732010-04-27T11:43:07.809-05:002010-04-27T11:43:07.809-05:00For your voting pleasure, Karen's added a topi...For your voting pleasure, Karen's added a topical poll to the left.<br /><br />But I have to ask myself: What? No love for G'Nort??<br /><br />Man, I loved the Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire Justice League in the late 1980's!!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-34754126734715458922010-04-27T10:31:18.873-05:002010-04-27T10:31:18.873-05:00Steve, Edo -
First, thank you for your well-artic...Steve, Edo -<br /><br />First, thank you for your well-articulated comments. I do agree that these issues ARE important for the ideas that they put forth. Certainly DC had not published anything like them before and I respect what they were trying to do. I understand how stories can shape people -I always say that after my parents,the biggest influences on my young mind were Marvel Comics and Star Trek. And those were good influences! They reinforced the things my parents taught me, about respecting others, and 'doing the right thing'. <br /><br />I'm sure the GL/GA stories had a a similar impact on some readers. I think the goal, of trying to open some minds, was a worthwhile one. My real problem with the stories is in the execution. I've read through both volumes now, which I believe is all the stories, and many of the issues feel incomplete. Maybe as Doug says they needed to do multi-part stories. In any case, I applaud the effort, if not always the results.<br /><br />KarenKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-16299585945078529032010-04-27T06:52:33.912-05:002010-04-27T06:52:33.912-05:00I agree with Steve; although I was waaay too young...I agree with Steve; although I was waaay too young to have read these GL/GAs, I had a similar experience with McGregor's Black Panther stories in Jungle Action (I was too young to have picked up those off the rack, too, but when I was about 12 I snagged a stack of them real cheap from a used comics dealer). I know McGregor is generally criticized for his wordy, overwrought style, but at the tender age of 12 those Panther stories dealing with racism, etc. really resonated. And most importantly, they eventually pushed me to do some reading outside of comics to get a better understanding of the issues involved. I'm sure O'Neil's GL stories had the same effect for earlier generations of fans.Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-2242712505971459132010-04-26T20:58:25.690-05:002010-04-26T20:58:25.690-05:00Steve --
So were you 11 when this came out?
See,...Steve --<br /><br />So were you 11 when this came out?<br /><br />See, I was only 4, so have no "first hand" knowledge of these stories. I wish I did. And maybe it's because Karen and I are reading these books in quick succession -- even 4-8 weeks apart would temper them somewhat. And yes, I can see where the authors you cite would certainly give you liberal leanings :) !<br /><br />Again, my biggest complaint about this run is that the stories are done-in-ones. O'Neil's delivery really suffers in the "believable dept." from those constraints. Had he the same space (14 issues or whatever this was) but was allowed to develop some subplots, it would all have flowed much better.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the comment, and come back again!<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-26407831213077842672010-04-26T18:44:28.354-05:002010-04-26T18:44:28.354-05:00Just for the record, if you were reading these whe...Just for the record, if you were reading these when you were 11 years old at the time, those speeches helped to ground you in values you may otherwise never have learned. My basic liberal chops were forged from reading Denny O'Neil and Steve Skeates and later Steve Gerber. Now, I don't think these hold up as stories either, but at a time when this sort of thing was simply outside the mainstream of conventional values, it was pretty damn groundbreaking.Steve Picknoreply@blogger.com