tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post954215114130838650..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: Five Avengers Assemble!Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-61556665185747900502012-05-16T08:00:18.329-05:002012-05-16T08:00:18.329-05:00Formidable team, isn't it? And with the sole ...Formidable team, isn't it? And with the sole exception of the Beast, it could really be considered a Silver Age roster-!<br /><br />Ya gotcher Big Three.<br />Ya got three of Cap's Kooky Quartet (poor Quicksilver-- I know two folks who are big fans of his, and he barely registers a blip in this poll).<br /><br />What's cool is that there are two relatively non-powered individuals (Cap & Hawkeye) right in there with three extreme heavy-weights (Thor, Iron Man, & Vision). Plus two mutants right there in reserve. This, of course, speaks to the fact that our interest (this group's, at least) seems to lay with the characters themselves and the dynamic they create, rather than with the specific gee-whiz factor of their powers.<br /><br />This was a very fun poll, Karen. Thanks for setting it up.<br />(Hmm-- what's the chance for some kind of "BRACKETOLOGY" thingy again? That, too, was quite a hoot-!)<br /><br />HBhumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-25481863229176071502012-05-15T12:45:10.308-05:002012-05-15T12:45:10.308-05:00The polls are closed, all votes are in. here are t...The polls are closed, all votes are in. here are the fabulous five:<br /><br />Capt. America (69)<br />Vision (60)<br />Iron Man (57)<br />Thor (44)<br />Hawkeye (43)<br /><br />Runner-ups:<br />Scarlet Witch (38)<br />Beast (33)<br /><br />Thanks for participating!<br /><br />KarenKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-86925218668892798202012-05-12T14:04:48.892-05:002012-05-12T14:04:48.892-05:00Just looked over the vote totals today and it appe...Just looked over the vote totals today and it appears that Cap is far and away the number one pick, with the Vision and Iron Man battling for second place. It's good to see ol' Vizh getting some love.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-22714607318922614162012-05-12T00:39:24.240-05:002012-05-12T00:39:24.240-05:00You have to have Cap in there. The Avengers w/o C...You have to have Cap in there. The Avengers w/o Cap was boring to me. The Vision was the face of the Avengers to me during the Bronze Age and you can't have Vizh there w/o his better half. I always liked Shellhead there as well...just liked him and Cap together. I picked the Beast as #5 because he was always fun in the issues I read.<br /><br />This was fun!<br /><br />DarpyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-91736646848950873802012-05-11T07:29:33.658-05:002012-05-11T07:29:33.658-05:00That MTIO site is awesome, inspiring (in this writ...That MTIO site is awesome, inspiring (in this writer, at least) equal parts envy and admiration. Talk about a labor of love!Matthew Bradleyhttp://bradleyonfilm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-41468881837046245672012-05-10T18:09:15.672-05:002012-05-10T18:09:15.672-05:00Matthew is correct: It is MTIO #62, part of three-...Matthew is correct: It is MTIO #62, part of three-issue arc wrapping up loose ends related to Adam Warlock's death.<br /><br />You can see the panel in question here: http://www.oelib.com/mtio/mtio62.htmlInkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-58599450850272348922012-05-10T14:26:20.547-05:002012-05-10T14:26:20.547-05:00Thanks for the info. I'll have to try an pick...Thanks for the info. I'll have to try an pick it up at the local comic shop the next time I wander by.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-85936928669249257602012-05-10T13:36:28.921-05:002012-05-10T13:36:28.921-05:00dbutler16: It appears to be MTIO #62.dbutler16: It appears to be MTIO #62.Matthew Bradleyhttp://bradleyonfilm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-25059777355454184782012-05-10T12:24:19.852-05:002012-05-10T12:24:19.852-05:00Inkstained Wretch, was that MTIO #75, where they w...Inkstained Wretch, was that MTIO #75, where they went to the Negative Zone and battled Blastaar and Annuhilus?dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-8338189764794428812012-05-10T09:13:28.000-05:002012-05-10T09:13:28.000-05:00We are, in a sense, going down some of the same ne...We are, in a sense, going down some of the same neural pathways we traveled when you asked us to pick our "essential" Avenger some time ago, although whittling it down to five is (probably) easier.<br /><br />My picks (within a frame of reference from 1963 to roughly 1985): Henry Pym, Captain America, Hawkeye, Vision, Beast. Made no attempt to fashion a team per se, just picked my favorites.<br /><br />As a romantic, I found it hard to break up couples (Hank but no Jan, Vizh but no Wanda). However, I do feel a marked leaning toward those who did not have the luxury of their own book or strip, which for the most part is true of all but Cap. No, I haven't forgotten the Giant-Man and Beast strips in, respectively, TALES TO ASTONISH and AMAZING ADVENTURES (or, for that matter, the fact that the Beast was once an X-Man, yet his blue and furry incarnation is an essentially new character), but the former frankly blew and the latter never had time to reach its potential.<br /><br />Pym is one of my all-time favorite characters (TTA notwithstanding), and I liked his Goliath incarnation best, with Yellowjacket a close second. His ruination c. #213 epitomizes the Shooter Apocalypse for me.<br /><br />Cap, although not technically a founding member, might as well be, and I will always consider him the heart and soul of the group, not to mention its best leader, hands down. I frequently enjoyed seeing him among the Assemblers more than in his own book. As the team's host and bankroll, Iron Man almost made the cut but, again, had his own book.<br /><br />Hawkeye is another fave, epitomizing the heady days of "Cap's Kooky Quartet," and was one of the most consistent members in my day. Since he had virtually no life outside the team, he also seems almost the quintessential Assembler.<br /><br />Vision is, quite simply, one of the coolest cats ever put on the page. His introduction kicked the book up to a whole new level, and he never disappointed. Love him.<br /><br />As for the Beast, he symbolizes the later era of Englehart and Perez for me, and his unique personality was always an asset.Matthew Bradleyhttp://bradleyonfilm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-2172625449908979502012-05-10T08:42:02.104-05:002012-05-10T08:42:02.104-05:00Errr "... over his knee AND gives her a good ...Errr "... over his knee AND gives her a good spankin' ..."Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-46040723163957944902012-05-10T08:39:49.426-05:002012-05-10T08:39:49.426-05:00My all-time favorite moment with Moondragon was th...My all-time favorite moment with Moondragon was the issue of Marvel Two in One where the Thing throws her over his knee a gives her a good spankin' while telling her that his poker buddies in the Avengers say she's had this coming for a long time.<br /><br />Totally politically incorrect and completely awesome.Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-48864305932747231172012-05-10T08:21:48.682-05:002012-05-10T08:21:48.682-05:00Yeah, Moondragon was just obnoxious. At least Dr....Yeah, Moondragon was just obnoxious. At least Dr. Druid had a redeeming characteristic or two, I think. Also interesting that only one person picked "other"<br /><br />Besides She-Hulk, another member not listed that I sorta liked was Sersi. Yeah, really. She was fun. Even Starfox had his good points and his power certainly could lead to some interesting stories.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-20834664287835367012012-05-09T20:36:25.590-05:002012-05-09T20:36:25.590-05:00I knew picking just five would be hard, but you...I knew picking just five would be hard, but you've all risen to the challenge. For me, leaving Wanda, the Panther, and the Beast off the list was difficult. I must also note that Moondragon has not received a single vote. Not a surprise!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-40618384068483386862012-05-09T18:44:39.961-05:002012-05-09T18:44:39.961-05:00Very tough to keep it to five; a couple favorites ...Very tough to keep it to five; a couple favorites inevitably are left out!<br /><br />My choices: Captain America. The Avengers, to me, always seemed a bit off balance without him. Look in the dictionary under "leader" and see his picture.<br /><br />Iron Man; a representative of the Big Boys. He has had a rich relationship with Cap, and his combination of strength and vulnerability is a plus.<br /><br />Vision; for the same reasons Inkstained gave!<br /><br />Scarlet Witch; a fascinating character who has gone through innumerable changes. She maintains a great strength of will; loved what Englehart did with her and Agatha Harkness.<br /><br />Beast; who to me seemed more at home in Avengers Mansion than in Westchester. He is nearly a two-for-one choice as his comradeship with Wonder Man helped make the Bronze Age Avengers so enjoyable.Redartznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-16498732993306411052012-05-09T17:51:55.390-05:002012-05-09T17:51:55.390-05:00Hmm, my picks were the very same top 5 Dougies lis...Hmm, my picks were the very same top 5 Dougies lists, although initially I picked Thor then swapped him out for Vizh. I can see arguments for leaving out all of the Big Three (or Big Four as it was in the mid-Bronze Age when T'Challa had his own series), and so exchanging Cap & Tony for Hank & Jan or the Beast & Wonderman.Fred W. Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07602124919964053532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-16309688362017194802012-05-09T14:03:48.207-05:002012-05-09T14:03:48.207-05:00Der. The Top Five is actually: Cap, Vizh, Hawkeye,...Der. The Top Five is actually: Cap, Vizh, Hawkeye, Iron Man and Wanda.<br /><br />The sixth and seventh slots, Gyrich-style, would go to the Beast and Thor.<br /><br />I wish we could have had a separate vote for Goliath-Clint.Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-15892122640105482552012-05-09T13:57:01.000-05:002012-05-09T13:57:01.000-05:00Hi William – according to Stan, the whole reason H...Hi William – according to Stan, the whole reason Hank, Jan, Thor & IM left was continuity with their own books. Hank came back when we went out of TTA. The others didn’t return until Roy (never daunted by continuity as he was their go-to guy) took over. <br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-65672060743097435662012-05-09T13:49:40.127-05:002012-05-09T13:49:40.127-05:00Beast, Spiderman, She Hulk, Wasp and Hercules.
Th...Beast, Spiderman, She Hulk, Wasp and Hercules.<br /><br />The Bwahahaha Avengers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-12468204862571230242012-05-09T13:36:25.879-05:002012-05-09T13:36:25.879-05:00Because I love this kind of post so much, I'd ...Because I love this kind of post so much, I'd like to point out that the most popular line-up so far would be: Cap, Vizh/Witch, Wasp and the Beast or the Panther.<br /><br />Box office stars Thor, Iron Man and Hawkeye follow farther behind with Pym, Simon and She-Hulk.<br /><br />There's a little love for Ms. M, Herc and Dane Whitman but I think it's obvious that Avengers: 2 needs the Vision and T'Challa to keep the Bronze Agers happy. If we were casting Modern Day Avengers, would Cage, Spidey or Logan make the list?<br /><br />(Can we do one of these for the JLA? With seven members? Please?)Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-31672107372504895962012-05-09T13:17:45.568-05:002012-05-09T13:17:45.568-05:00A problem I had with the Avengers comic was, like ...A problem I had with the Avengers comic was, like any Marvel geek obsessed with continuity, I couldn't truly fathom how anyone on the team would have time to headline a solo book. Yes, I loved having Thor and Iron Man and Cap on the team (especially when Cap's own book slipped in quality), but I never quite bought the premise of those guys hanging around the mansion the way the X-Men hung around in Westchester. <br /><br />With that said: Scarlet Witch, Vision, Wonder Man, Hank, Jan. What a ridiculous amount of internal conflict! You still had some really powerful beings on top of smarts.William Prestonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896164917625191919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-7328581462320593722012-05-09T13:11:43.732-05:002012-05-09T13:11:43.732-05:00HB:
MTU 22 was one of my ALL-TIME favorite Bronze...HB:<br /><br />MTU 22 was one of my ALL-TIME favorite Bronze issues. Breezy fun, a MUCH-awaited post-Clash adventure with Hawkeye. You knew that a team of Spidey and Hawkeye would be frothy fun, and it was.<br /><br />I know the story was a bit weak, but who cared..?? <br /><br />To coin a phrase.., 'the angles looked right'.<br /><br />Indeed.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-67610138381988888332012-05-09T13:01:13.363-05:002012-05-09T13:01:13.363-05:00I love this type of post. I spent an indecent amou...I love this type of post. I spent an indecent amount of time thinking about this sort of thing but I feel many people here may share my affliction!<br /><br />Five is a fiendishly difficult number since, as has been pointed out, Gyrich introduced a 7-memeber limit. (Like that lasted!)<br /><br />Anyway: five Silver/Bronze Age favourites. (Damn! I wanted Monica Marvel!)<br />Cap: Where else should he be? He's the soul of the Avengers<br />Wasp: Jan's journey to chairman is fascinating; she's the public face of the Avengers.<br />Vision: the quintessential Avenger and the star of the book.<br />Scarlet Witch: more magic, less mutant, please. I can't handle the two of them being apart but I think Wanda should be the apprentice to Dr. Strange.<br />Beast: something rich and strange ( a quote I think Hank would appreciate). A brilliant left-field mind and an archetypal Marvel tragic monster.<br /><br />I hate not having room for Hawkeye!<br /><br />I totally agree that the Kooky Quartet would have worked in the mid-70s, but it would have been Thor's Kooky Quintet. When Swordsman died (as he absolutely had to, to cement Kang's role) Hawkeye would have naturally taken his place.Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-30984896596014906262012-05-09T13:00:14.527-05:002012-05-09T13:00:14.527-05:00@dbutler16:
Marvel Team-Up #22.
The side-splittin...@dbutler16:<br /><br />Marvel Team-Up #22.<br />The side-splittingly (but nonetheless awesome and delightful) impossible last-second shot that saves Hawk & Spidey from Quasimodo's robotic hordes. . . <br /><br />Prefaced w/ something like, ". . .the angles look right. . ."<br /><br />HBhumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-79326455292425301302012-05-09T12:14:10.300-05:002012-05-09T12:14:10.300-05:00humanbelly, another great thing about Hawkeye (I c...humanbelly, another great thing about Hawkeye (I can't believe I left him off my list!) is how incredibly resourceful he is. I remember him defeating the Collector single handed after the Collector had captured all of the other Avengers, and I also remember him beating the She-Hulk in some kind of contest in a crossover between the regular Avengers and West Coast Avengers Annuals, where Death and the Grandmaster were having a contest. But then, best Hawkeye moments is really a post unto itself.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.com