tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post3172094553338639295..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: That Zany Bob Haney: The Brave and the Bold 110Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-14975520603209348172014-03-29T03:26:43.443-05:002014-03-29T03:26:43.443-05:00I always thought that if TPTB at DC had just allow...I always thought that if TPTB at DC had just allowed for an Earth 1 version of Wildcat (Haney's version was pretty cool) and Black Canary the whole Crisis thing never would have had to have happened!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-84076673657319398732014-02-09T09:57:16.238-06:002014-02-09T09:57:16.238-06:00I was more of a Marvel fan during this era, but Br...I was more of a Marvel fan during this era, but Brave & Bold was one of the few D.C. comics I always read -- in part because it was so over the top!<br />The team-ups always seemed so random, and anything could happen each issue.<br />This story really didn't have much specifically to do with Wildcat, who could have been any hero slotted into the story. But I still enjoyed reading it as a kid, and I enjoyed your review! P.S. I've made some comments as `Bruce' but realize you have another Bruce among your readers so I'll start using my blog post name instead. Goldenrulecomicshttp://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/goldenrulecomicsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-71607565976282194482013-03-23T09:45:19.353-05:002013-03-23T09:45:19.353-05:00I love those "fringe" characters. maybe ...I love those "fringe" characters. maybe haney liked them because nobody much cared what he did with/to them? I don't know how the guest stars were chosen, some are clearly there to be promoted (new-look Wonder Woman, Plastic Man new series, etc.) while others just seem left field.<br /><br />Jim Aparo was so great...love his lettering, it's so distinctively his. He seems underappreciated, perhaps due to his reliability and craftsmanship. Anyone know when the Twomorrows Aparo bio is coming out? been delayed fo years now!Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-57752279362843254562013-03-23T01:45:01.255-05:002013-03-23T01:45:01.255-05:00Great review Doug! This is one of my favorite B+B ...Great review Doug! This is one of my favorite B+B stories from this great period of Haney-Aparo. Wildcat is not a favorite character of mine...except in these Haney stories! Here he seems tough and believable, despite the whiskers and cat-cycle that are absurd anywhere else. The archer is also funny--he's there and he's gone, whabam! <br /><br />I think the art is special, with a kickass splash page not pictured here, a cool sculpture design by Aparo, and a big knockout punch by Batman near the end. The montage scenes by Aparo, like the "probe into the past" here, look much better in color. I read this series first in the B+W Showcase version, which I loved, but I'm starting to appreciate the color more now. Aparo works very well in B+W, and it's cool that he pencilled, inked and even lettered--it gives the whole thing a distinct Aparo vibe.<br /><br />Glad you're enjoying the unexpectedness in Haney's stories--me too.<br /><br />Haney writes Wildcat very well, and I think it's the concentration on Ted Grant, retired boxer that does it. Perhaps Haney identified with these somewhat fringe characters in the DC universe? Wildcat, Plastic Man, Deadman, Kamandi, Metamorpho....Garettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-29455265454696343732013-03-22T20:17:31.382-05:002013-03-22T20:17:31.382-05:00Dang that Bob Haney and his damned Haney-verse. I ...Dang that Bob Haney and his damned Haney-verse. I was just an apple-cheeked lad who had just figured out the difference between Earth 1 and Earth 2 when he dropped this big hot bowl of inconsistancy in my lap. No wonder I have mental problems now. Ya gotta admit, however, those team-up titles put their writers in a pickle; teaming up Spider-Man and Daredevil or Batman and Green Arrow is easy enough, but Batman and Kamandi? Or Spider-Man and Doc Savage? It makes my poor head hurt just thinking about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-47596440426590675032013-03-22T18:00:05.041-05:002013-03-22T18:00:05.041-05:00Blazes! It's Bob Haney!
Wow, this was my very...Blazes! It's Bob Haney!<br /><br />Wow, this was my very first issue of Brave and Bold in the early 70's. I had no idea what the deal was at the time. A friend in school had to explain to me that every issue had Batman teaming up with someone else. I was so excited trying to imagine who would be in the next issue until it came out..with the Joker. Boy did I feel robbed. Now, I think it's one of the all-time classic issues.<br /><br />Neither of us could figure out who the heck Wildcat was at the time, not that it mattered. And we didn't know anything about continuity in the 3rd grade (that would come in the 4th grade). But the story and art were definitely a few notches up from Batman & Detective at the time.<br /><br />I can safely say that I never missed an issue of B & B until I stopped collecting in 1980. They should have renamed it Tales to Astonish, because I was continually astonished by Haney's unique grasp of logic. But I was never bored.<br /><br />James ChattertonUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15576083934906136102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-25913900162239555862013-03-22T17:06:13.988-05:002013-03-22T17:06:13.988-05:00I lived in VA and NC and have traveled to probably...I lived in VA and NC and have traveled to probably every state in the South and have yet to hear an "I" that sounds like "Ah." Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-8197105825490965612013-03-22T14:55:53.605-05:002013-03-22T14:55:53.605-05:00I can see how this issue might be fun, but to me, ...I can see how this issue might be fun, but to me, it reads as headache-inducing! But the Aparo art is great as always.<br /><br />Matt, that's a spot-on Claremont Southern Accent (TM). As a native son and lifelong resident of the South, Rogue's dialogue makes me chuckle. No one, outside of "Gone With the Wind," has ever talked like Rogue, sugah!Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-89642372762249326562013-03-22T12:10:58.687-05:002013-03-22T12:10:58.687-05:00Conspiracy by Roxxon undermined the solution!Conspiracy by Roxxon undermined the solution!Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-81660644355067880452013-03-22T12:03:45.041-05:002013-03-22T12:03:45.041-05:00Ok, so according to this story they solved the ene...Ok, so according to this story they solved the energy crisis in 1973? You'd think that would have caused a few more waves...Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-64001128584461166222013-03-22T10:50:40.222-05:002013-03-22T10:50:40.222-05:00Nice work Doug! I have to concur on Aparo's a...Nice work Doug! I have to concur on Aparo's artwork -- I always thought his Batman was really cool looking. Also, I gotta mention that Wildcat was a regular on the animated Batman: Brave and the Bold from a couple of years back. I thought he was done pretty well. Here's a quick clip I found on Youtube (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp_1znHtlsw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp_1znHtlsw</a>).Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00772306756607189999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-80512410079566528382013-03-22T10:25:41.286-05:002013-03-22T10:25:41.286-05:00Wildcat was in Brave and Bold a lot! I think the f...Wildcat was in Brave and Bold a lot! I think the first time I ever saw Wildcat was in one of the Batman team-ups, it was around issue #126 or so. Batman and Wildcat go to the Caribbean for some reason. (As I recall, I noticed this comic book made no sense even though I had a pretty tolerance for that kind of thing and seldom noticed that comic books make no sense.)<br /><br />Why so much Wildcat? Did they think Wildcat/Batman was a good team? Were they pushing Wildcat for a permamnent backup feature somewhere? Did Haney (or Aparo) just like Wildcat? Was it just for a good mix of team-ups?<br /><br />Over the years, I must admit, Wildcat has grown on me. Hoosier Xhttp://mushtown.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-50759692725838723242013-03-22T10:03:56.516-05:002013-03-22T10:03:56.516-05:00All I know is, whiskers really never work on a mas...All I know is, whiskers really never work on a mask.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-39120116281503339552013-03-22T09:33:08.957-05:002013-03-22T09:33:08.957-05:00Not much to comment on, but regarding the 'ste...Not much to comment on, but regarding the 'stereotype', you could add in either DC's Hawk or Timberwolf as earlier, 'safer' loose canons.<br /><br />Not much of a stretch there. <br />david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-44981004517366814302013-03-22T09:08:03.278-05:002013-03-22T09:08:03.278-05:00"Ah don't know what y'all are tryin&#..."Ah don't know what y'all are tryin' to say, but it's givin' me the vapahs," as Chris Claremont might have Rogue say.Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-64485414390349378232013-03-22T08:52:57.609-05:002013-03-22T08:52:57.609-05:00I agree with your assessment. I have just gotten ...I agree with your assessment. I have just gotten a sense, often in the JSA revival in All-Star Comics, that they wanted him to be the tough "no rules" sort of guy -- that loose cannon that we see Logan as in the first several issues of the All-New X-Men.<br /><br />Certainly Wildcat was never a berserker or anything like that. That wasn't my intent in the comparison.<br /><br />Speech patterns in comics tend toward the stereotypical, don't they?<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-49090203672742879502013-03-22T08:47:05.329-05:002013-03-22T08:47:05.329-05:00No idea...the 1940s stoies i read have him just as...No idea...the 1940s stoies i read have him just as square as every other good guy. The only later stories I've seen were Team-ups where I found him ordinary at best. Nothing like Wolverine that I can recall, no particular personality except I think they dumbed down his speech patterns because obviously all boxers speak poor English.Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-79356954893683984552013-03-22T08:37:43.863-05:002013-03-22T08:37:43.863-05:00Matt --
Was Wildcat Wolverine before Wolverine wa...Matt --<br /><br />Was Wildcat Wolverine before Wolverine was Wolverine? I'm asking if he was the Bronze Age rough-and-tumble, fight-first guy before Wolverine's character was fully formed?<br /><br />Not necessarily a good thing at any rate, but interesting to see some basic similarities.<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-39284661146862946862013-03-22T08:29:42.450-05:002013-03-22T08:29:42.450-05:00So many plot holes, unlikelihoods, and legal mista...So many plot holes, unlikelihoods, and legal mistakes in this one, you can't even question it or it all falls apart. Best just to say law and reason work differently on Earth-H and leave it at that.<br /><br />I've never understood Wildcat's latter-day popularity. His costume is cool, but aside from that, what?Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-85385935545597784192013-03-22T08:26:52.296-05:002013-03-22T08:26:52.296-05:00Ah, more fun from Earth-H(aney). I've always e...Ah, more fun from Earth-H(aney). I've always enjoyed the Haney-penned B&Bs, and I was never bothered by any of the externalities that I might have otherwise obsessed over (like continuity, and even elementary logic).<br />However, I don't think the importance of the art should be downplayed here. Aparo's beautiful work throughout really raised the level of these stories.Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.com