tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post4403126926439804460..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: Discuss: Comic Creator NamesDoughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-21281626753883338322012-01-31T09:36:08.394-06:002012-01-31T09:36:08.394-06:00I freely confess that I always said "muh-JOLE...I freely confess that I always said "muh-JOLE-nir," and probably still would today, even though I suspect it's more like "mee-YOLE-nir." I think they also had a "pickle my knee" type of thing indicating that it should be sin-KEV-itch. But again, don't quote me.Matthew Bradleyhttp://bradleyonfilm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-18499157434834865842012-01-26T20:16:56.303-06:002012-01-26T20:16:56.303-06:00Ha! And you, Mr.Bradley, were therefore the most ...Ha! And you, Mr.Bradley, were therefore the most commendably literate amongst us! I'm not sure if, at 9 years old or so, "The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner" or the word "annihilate" were conversational parts of my gang's idiom, as it were.<br /><br />(Well, "annihilate" may have been, actually-- just 'cause it always sort of one-upped "crush" or "destroy". . . )<br /><br />Ha-- I believe I even remember that dock-worker you're referring to--!<br /><br />Okay, and the other obvious one to confess to, I suppose, would be "Mjolnir". Again, we were grade-school kids in a tiny little town in Michigan-- not a heck of a lot of international/intercultural pollination goin' on. We tended to take the tried-and-true route of simply pronouncing every letter in the fashion the seemed most familiar:<br /><br />Meh-JOLE-ner.<br /><br />C'monc'monc'mon-- surely SOMEONE else MUST have done the same? Yes? Yes? Don't leave me & Bryan (wonder where he is now?) hangin', here-!<br /><br />HBhumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-53618839982780886072012-01-26T14:52:45.118-06:002012-01-26T14:52:45.118-06:00As kids, we all had trouble with BYRNE, believe it...As kids, we all had trouble with BYRNE, believe it or not,<br /><br />And Scienkevicz (sp) was the worst.starfoxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408060307155903293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-67824888459705555862012-01-26T12:33:02.575-06:002012-01-26T12:33:02.575-06:00Hah! I always reasoned that because the word &quo...Hah! I always reasoned that because the word "mariner" (as in the Ancient Mariner) was pronounced MARE-in-ur, then "Sub-Mariner" would be pronounced the same way, since he's a mariner under the sea. In fact, those who serve on submarines are also called "submariners," although I have no idea how your average submariner pronounces that (and am afraid to ask). But the clincher for me was an issue in which some dock worker or the like saw Namor rise from the depths and said, "Hey, it's the SubmaREENer," clearly indicating--at least in my mind--that he was pronouncing it incorrectly, or else why use the altered spelling? Okay, this forced me to look "submariner" up in my trusty Merriam Webster, where both pronunciations are listed as acceptable (along with a third one in which the primary accent is on the first syllable; ugh), but "mine" is preferred...<br /><br />Similarly, I've always said An-NYE-hill-us.Matthew Bradleyhttp://bradleyonfilm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-8017200440291543302012-01-26T11:37:13.341-06:002012-01-26T11:37:13.341-06:00Say, can I jump back to the "How to pronounce...Say, can I jump back to the "How to pronounce character names??" tangent for a moment?---<br /><br />"ANNIHILUS"-??<br /><br />Do you imagine that Stan or anyone-ANYONE- actually said this name out loud before he saw print in Fantastic Four-? My boyhood pal Bryan & I spent multiple years under the self-created assumption that his name was clearly to be pronounced, "anna-HILL-us". I don't think it was until I was about 17 or so that I thought, "wait a minute-- his name is obviously a play on the word 'annihilate', so. . . wouldn't that morph into something more like, 'uh-NYE-luss'-?" Oh, how mortifying.<br /><br />And, of course, the BENCHMARK here would "Sub-Mariner", yes? Right? Right? A show of hands from all of those who DIDN'T first start by pronouncing it "SubmaREENer"-? Anyone? Hmmm? Heh- just as I thought. . .<br /><br />HBhumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-52124890845701605142012-01-26T08:21:49.566-06:002012-01-26T08:21:49.566-06:00Thanks, Dougie! I thought I was the only one who ...Thanks, Dougie! I thought I was the only one who remembered the "pickle my knee" thing, but you beat me to it. I thought they had a similar aide de memoir that confirmed the "Boo-SEE-ma" pronunciation, but I could be wrong.Matthew Bradleyhttp://bradleyonfilm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-957660089271918092012-01-26T05:15:39.776-06:002012-01-26T05:15:39.776-06:00Pizza..?? Give me those glorious 'Chicago Dogs...Pizza..?? Give me those glorious 'Chicago Dogs' anyday.<br /><br />Gawd, I love 'em.. THAT'S what I missed during my Army deployments.<br /><br />Yes, Chicago's pizza's are great as well, Doug.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-67184259013153282572012-01-26T04:04:02.695-06:002012-01-26T04:04:02.695-06:00Despite looking at his name countless times, I car...Despite looking at his name countless times, I carelessly thought of Rocke Mastroserio as "Mastrosio" or some knuckleheaded thing like that. Then I actually noticed I was not pronouncing it like it was spelled at all. Sheesh!<br /><br />And it's "Rocky" apparently and not "Rock" like I used to say it too. Great talent, deserved better from me. <br /><br />And Dick Giordano is "Gee-or-dahn-oh" I think, and not "Ghi-or-dane-o" like I said it for years. At least I think so. <br /><br />At least I pronounced Joe Gill's name right all those years, despite the fact I thought he was just a mythical house name. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-54401743593442185722012-01-25T20:58:16.832-06:002012-01-25T20:58:16.832-06:00This is going to sound ridiculous, but being such ...This is going to sound ridiculous, but being such a Claremont/Byrne fanatic during their X-Men run, I saw a lot of the work of the letterer Tom Orzechowski. I could never make it past the first two syllables of his name!!! Furthermore, where the heck was all this information that y'all are dispensing when I was a kid puzzling out all of these crazy names!Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928260594790854327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-79918439083822346932012-01-25T19:00:29.051-06:002012-01-25T19:00:29.051-06:00Pete --
Go here: www.giordanos.com; I am not kid...Pete --<br /><br />Go here: www.giordanos.com; I am not kidding on the cheese, man.<br /><br />And for you New Yawkers, <i>THIS</i> is pizza.<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-39398645569609531402012-01-25T17:20:27.568-06:002012-01-25T17:20:27.568-06:00Wait ( cough splutter ) there's a pizza joint ...Wait ( cough splutter ) there's a pizza joint called Giordano's?!! That might just be the coolest thing I've ever heard! Can you get the Sarge Steel platter? Or the Stephanie Starrburger?pete doreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17004574271734256770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-28428896522550297692012-01-25T16:43:45.102-06:002012-01-25T16:43:45.102-06:00Edo --
There's an excellent pizza chain in th...Edo --<br /><br />There's an excellent pizza chain in the Chicago area (stuffed pizza, brother -- enough cheese to choke a small child...) called Giordano's, and around here it is indeed Gee-or-dah-no. But I like your more Old World version better!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-13548844741267638002012-01-25T14:33:40.847-06:002012-01-25T14:33:40.847-06:00The Italian bit of me always read Giacoia the same...The Italian bit of me always read Giacoia the same way I pronounce Giovanni. Gio=a J sound, so it's probably something like "Ja-COY-a.J.A. Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15800901321134394272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-15791353777791993062012-01-25T14:01:18.337-06:002012-01-25T14:01:18.337-06:00Thanks for the Paul Gulacy link, Richard. At last,...Thanks for the Paul Gulacy link, Richard. At last, after all these years, I can finally say his name with confidence. :)Steve Does Comicshttp://stevedoescomics.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-25497073243266032082012-01-25T13:42:01.000-06:002012-01-25T13:42:01.000-06:00Funny, I always assumed J.M De Matteis was prono...Funny, I always assumed J.M De Matteis was pronounced Dee - mat - eye - us (like a Dutch name), but Dee-mat-is is probably the correct Americanisation. <br /><br />Richard ('Rich-ard'...although I'm now considering putting a silent Q on the front)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-77856647769063321862012-01-25T11:59:55.992-06:002012-01-25T11:59:55.992-06:00Cripes, I think you can launch an entire blog dedi...Cripes, I think you can launch an entire blog dedicated to this topic alone...<br />Anyway, Giordano is one I always "heard" wrong in my head as a kid: I though it was Gee-or-dano, with the "G" pronounced as in the name Greg. It's actually, quite simply, "Jordahno" - confirmed to me by Howard Chaykin (pronounced just like it's spelled).<br />Michelinie's odd - I prefer the way dbutler and I say it.<br />Rick Veitch is another one I've always wondered about. Isn't "Vaytch" also possible?<br />Another one I remember is Nicola (Nick) Cuti - is it "Cutie", "Cootie" (which, although unfortunate, is what I think it is) or, possibly, "Cutty"?Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-60501718360013392792012-01-25T11:31:14.340-06:002012-01-25T11:31:14.340-06:00Dougie:
Deh-Mat-tis
Shee-ar
Tin-ya
Far as I know...Dougie:<br /><br />Deh-Mat-tis<br />Shee-ar<br />Tin-ya<br /><br />Far as I know...<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-23393838237162108402012-01-25T11:26:01.726-06:002012-01-25T11:26:01.726-06:00Michelenie is "Mick-el-eye-knee". A Bull...Michelenie is "Mick-el-eye-knee". A Bullpen Bulletins page used "pickle my knee" to aid pronunciation. Ahem.<br /><br />As a kid, I first read Shang-Chi to rhyme with Shanghai and even though I know it's wrong, I still "hear" it that way. Similarly I read Doug Moench (idiotically) as "Mo-neck". Byoo-seem-a, rather than Busk-emma, was also a shock. But then, in a village in Scotland, we didn't have any exotic names...<br /><br />What about J. M. DeMatteis?<br /><br />And better yet, what about comic book aliens? Shy-Ar or Shee-Ar? Tin-YA or Teeny-ah Wazzo?Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-19830788785008633832012-01-25T11:18:30.929-06:002012-01-25T11:18:30.929-06:00I remember kids including myself for a long time r...I remember kids including myself for a long time referring to John Byrne as John "Bi-urn" or "Byron". <br /><br />I also here "Liefeld" get pronounced as "Lee-field" a lot for some reason.MattComixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015552734150732758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-38604970368030426752012-01-25T10:54:21.797-06:002012-01-25T10:54:21.797-06:00Big John & Our Pal Sal must be Boo-Sem-Ah, lik...Big John & Our Pal Sal must be Boo-Sem-Ah, like Steve Buscemi. <br />Sienkiewicz I always thought was Sen-Ka-Vitch.<br />But what about Rick Veitch? Veetch?<br />Or Dick Giordano? Gee-Or-Darn-oh?<br />Frank Giacoia I don't think anybody knows for sure, and as for Doug Moench, not even The Watcher knows! It's different for every person you ask!pete doreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17004574271734256770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-66975692327435478502012-01-25T10:34:46.468-06:002012-01-25T10:34:46.468-06:00RE: David Michelinie. I always hear "Mick-e...RE: David Michelinie. I always hear "Mick-eh-leen-ee".<br /><br />RE: Jan Duursema. I hear "Doo-ur-se-mah. Hey, and I didn't know until literally a couple of weeks ago that Jan was a female artist! Duh to me!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-31298523772791758042012-01-25T09:38:26.036-06:002012-01-25T09:38:26.036-06:00Something that never occurred to me until now........Something that never occurred to me until now.....when I was a kid I used to discuss comics with my friends all the time, so we said (or tried to say) these names out loud all the time. Now, I still see these names on a daily basis, and chat on the net about them, but I have no idea when I last said one of these names out loud and actually pronounced it. <br /><br />Regarding Giacoia, I think it’s pronounced... ‘ray’. No, actually, I believe it’s Gwa-kwa. When I was little I used to ask my mum how to pronounce them all. Up to then it was all John Byron and Frank Gee-a-coy-a, but she put me right. At least I always thought so? I’ve asked round the office. The Spanish reckon it’s Italian, the Italians deny all knowledge. I think he was actually Italian though. <br /><br />Edo...I’ve always said Mitch-el-in-y, so mitch rather than mish, but I have no justification for that. <br /><br />Doug / Karen – the Ween/Wine thing is weird, right? I have a colleague called Weinstein, who pronounces it as the Germans would... Wine – stine, so accent on the second vowel of the two....if it was spelt Wienstien, then it would be Ween-steen. However, one very often hears that name pronounced Wine-steen (as in Harvey & Bob), which is completely self-contradictory. <br /><br />By the way, our pain is shared. Steve, this might answer your Gulacy question:<br />http://wednesdaysheroes.com/%E2%80%9Cwhat%E2%80%99s-in-a-name%E2%80%A6or-is-it-%E2%80%98nah-may%E2%80%9D/<br /><br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-75570706009453733202012-01-25T09:37:13.673-06:002012-01-25T09:37:13.673-06:00Oh, "Juh-koy-uh" for Frank is probably r...Oh, "Juh-koy-uh" for Frank is probably right, I would imagine. Not that my batting average is very good here.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-14609996828147670752012-01-25T09:36:08.793-06:002012-01-25T09:36:08.793-06:00Edo Bosnar, I don't know if that pronounciatio...Edo Bosnar, I don't know if that pronounciation of Michelenie is correct, but like I said in my post, that's how I've always pronounced it. So, if we're wrong, we'll be wrong together!dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-57766671696496018632012-01-25T08:57:13.879-06:002012-01-25T08:57:13.879-06:00Actually, I just thought of one that I've neve...Actually, I just thought of one that I've never been sure about: David Michelinie. I always assumed it's "Mish-eh-leenie" - anyone know if that's correct?Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.com