tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post4813142696199192959..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: Medieval Times: Iron Man 150Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-5607597650446305582013-01-21T07:57:25.555-06:002013-01-21T07:57:25.555-06:00Great issue, which I’ve just finished re-reading f...Great issue, which I’ve just finished re-reading for the first time in 30 years.<br /><br />Cool splash page.<br /><br />Like Karen, I thought of Return of the Jedi with the chair levitation. I love how Doom keeps calling Iron Man “lackey” throughout the issue.<br /><br />To Doug’s comment about bathing, I’m sure Tony’s got an odor filter in that helmet of his – he’ll just have to remember to keep it on.<br /><br />I did always like how one of Doom’s greatest wishes was to free his mother’s soul. It’s surprisingly sweet for a would be world conqueror, and adds complexity to his character. However, I do agree with Doug that this was surprisingly Christian. In particular, the “unconfessed” but got my attention.<br /><br />As far as Arthurian legend in Marvel, I think Morgana Le Fay had made more Marvel appearances than any other Arthurian character, with some appearances in Spider-Woman and the Avengers prior to this.<br /><br />To Karen’s point “I can't help but think fewer wars would be fought today if the people who ordered them actually had to go out and fight them” my wife and I were saying the exact same thing the other day! Anyway, I thought it was cool the way Iron Man fought Morgana’s magic with technology. Also, as far as Iron Man hating magic because it’s beyond his comprehension, I’m thinking Doom’s main rival, Reed Richards, might feel the same. Also, as far as Karen’s suggestion of Iron Man trying to figure out Mjolnir in a film, I think Doug is correct that the Avengers” Earth’ Mightiest Heroes animated series dealt with that. My memory’s fuzzy, but I think they did, and did it well. <br /><br />Doom began made armor out of the skin of his ex-girlfriends? I’m glad I missed that. So glad I stopped collecting comics around 1990.<br /><br />In rereading this, I wasn’t sure if Doom knew Stark was Iron Man by this time, but obviously not. It is funny in the first issues of Tales of Suspence, seeing Tony Stark trying to come up with reasons for Iron Man to magically appear.<br />dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-70940798940654808202012-12-12T03:32:19.171-06:002012-12-12T03:32:19.171-06:00Mike, luck does in fact have a lot to do with it: ...Mike, luck does in fact have a lot to do with it: sometimes I just stumble onto a great bargain on eBay, or abebooks, or Biblio.com, with a seller who offers really reasonable postage rates. Otherwise, it's a matter of patience. I'd been looking for a copy of that particular Hercules trade in my price range on and off for over 2 years...Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-26270134051069713562012-12-11T20:58:53.273-06:002012-12-11T20:58:53.273-06:00Yes, I was responding to Edo's comment about b...Yes, I was responding to Edo's comment about being tired of shovelling snow and wishing he was in Arizona or Trinidad & Tobago. Don't envy you one bit there Edo ol' buddy!<br /><br />Karen, even in the coolest nights these days it averages in the 70s(F) down here in Trinidad! It's always warm in T & T! Being situated almost on the equator, the change in daylight is not as noticeable as in other temperate countries, except that it gets a little darker earlier around 6 PM. <br /><br />Edo, you really scored on that Hercules trade, brother! I wish I had your luck in finding good comics at bargain prices!<br /><br /><br /><br />- Mike 'looking on eBay to buy Edo a bigger snow shovel' from Trinidad & Tobago. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-77486655745323374092012-12-11T08:54:38.511-06:002012-12-11T08:54:38.511-06:00Hey, it's actually in the 40s (F) this morning...Hey, it's actually in the 40s (F) this morning in Phoenix. I feel like celebrating. I even put a jacket on.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-14474339074406052512012-12-11T02:19:39.893-06:002012-12-11T02:19:39.893-06:00Doug, Mike can clear it up himself, but I think he...Doug, Mike can clear it up himself, but I think he's referring to an off-hand comment I made in the recent Giant-size thread, wherein I lamented my snow-shoveling travails of the past weekend and expressed a preference for being in Arizona or Trinidad & Tobago.<br />Mike, since you mentioned Layton's Hercules mini, I have to boast about a recent online score I made: a very good used copy of that late '90s trade that reprints both the first and second series for about $2 - together with postage the whole thing cost me a little under $10. I'm still happy about that one. And, yeah, I wouldn't mind visiting Trinidad & Tobago at all, especially now...<br />Edo 'sore-armed and snowblind' from ZagrebEdo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-75548664207993444542012-12-10T21:49:56.352-06:002012-12-10T21:49:56.352-06:00Mike from Trinidad and Tobago --
I think you may ...Mike from Trinidad and Tobago --<br /><br />I think you may have the wrong commenter. If your invitation to Edo was in regard to a comment in the "Winter Wonderland" post poking fun at your heat, that was from commenter Tony, not Edo.<br /><br />But I may have missed something along the way.<br /><br />By the way, I always love the humor in your signature line!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-10234597433027936002012-12-10T21:39:42.943-06:002012-12-10T21:39:42.943-06:00First off - to Edo, I'd be thrilled if you cam...First off - to Edo, I'd be thrilled if you came to my little island homeland one of these fine days!<br /><br />This story must have been a good read - two of Marvel's best known armored characters plunked into Camelot. I've always believed Bob Layton was an underrated artist. I liked how he drew ol' Shellhead's armor with a metallic finish. Previous artists drew his armor like it was made of cloth! I still have an old issue of his now classic Hercules limited series (the one in which he faces Galactus!) from the 80s.<br /><br />It was indeed an interesting contrast to see Doom's haughty regal yet calculating manner as opposed to Tony Stark's realization that he could not fit in such a technologically challenged society. David Michelinie really nailed their respective personalities here.<br /><br />All in all not a bad way to celebrate Iron Man's 150th issue.<br /><br /><br />- Mike 'hell even Daredevil could see that Iron Man was Tony Stark' from Trinidad & Tobago.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-11552475248347479102012-12-10T21:08:25.947-06:002012-12-10T21:08:25.947-06:00Great story! Wonderful how both Tony & Victor...Great story! Wonderful how both Tony & Victor realized their limitations, and, once they recognized the pointlessness of further fighting, worked together towards the common goal of getting back to their own era. Iron Man was rightly worried because to his mind time travel was a weird mix of technology and magic, something he had previously experienced but had no hand in manufacturing. Dr. Doom, on the other hand, had built the only functioning time machine of the modern era. Certainly, he was confident he could do it again, but trying to do so on his own in the Arthurian world would take up a considerable amount of, ahem, time! Better to swallow some pride and get that damned lackey to help out so he could get back to his home turf that much quicker. The version of Doom who would skin anyone and make a coat of human flesh, uh, that just sounds really off to me. Seems more in character for, say, the Red Skull than Victor Von Doom. I suppose in the 21st century, everyone's got to be that much more extreme and demented.Fred W. Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07602124919964053532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-41365983583304055622012-12-10T20:31:26.966-06:002012-12-10T20:31:26.966-06:00Glad you guys enjoyed the review. This was certain...Glad you guys enjoyed the review. This was certainly a lot of fun for Doug and I.<br /><br />Bmcmolo: Regarding the time machine construction, I know, it was so easy, like an afternoon home repair project or something. It certainly seems like Doom could have done it whenever he liked (with the use of some of Iron Man's equipment), but poor Tony was sweating the whole 'stranded in the past' thing needlessly!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-40111966020356943762012-12-10T18:59:29.777-06:002012-12-10T18:59:29.777-06:00Nice eye, Inkstained, he does remind me of those g...Nice eye, Inkstained, he does remind me of those guys in soft-focus ads for brandy or cigarettes.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-53469957680789322222012-12-10T16:24:16.715-06:002012-12-10T16:24:16.715-06:00The art here is just fantastic. I had never paid m...The art here is just fantastic. I had never paid much attention to this run of Iron Man. Obviously, I missed out ...<br /><br />By the way, I am the only who thinks that Tony Stark's rocking 1981 head of hair dates this story more firmly than anything else could?Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-2822143088940672092012-12-10T10:07:18.297-06:002012-12-10T10:07:18.297-06:00I typically like Doom when he was more stoic and &...I typically like Doom when he was more stoic and 'master-minded' with his minions than actual hand-to-hand involvement (seemed beneath his royal status..), but glad to see he could still deliver the goods with IM/Stark. <br /><br />As mentioned last week, this was the issue that surprised me. Simply an awesome cover (arguably more memorable than even ish 149..), excellent story, good resolve.<br /><br />Echoing comments on that time-traveling splash page, seemed somewhat 'Time Tunnelish', with a twist of Ditko-Doc Strange dimensional effects added.<br /><br />Love the royal bed-warmers.., a very cinematic touch, with Stark getting the gorgeous one, Doom being delivered the less visually startling (yet proving even more effective..). <br /><br />As for collecting IM, I recall at that time just holding on to the Tuska issues I had, and not having interest in collecting any more, perhaps out of being bored with the IM title. This 2-parter definitely shot a hole in that.<br />david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-80237792170945221962012-12-10T09:52:09.599-06:002012-12-10T09:52:09.599-06:00Dr. Doom was my #1 favorite Marvel character when ...Dr. Doom was my #1 favorite Marvel character when I was a kid. Really. Now I wasn't a bad kid or anything, I just thought he was really really cool. Anyhow, I will never forget reading this story back then because it depicted exactly all the things I liked about Doom. His ambitious drive and scheming, his warped sense of self-sacrifice for his mother, his overall cunning and genius.<br /><br />I was never much of an Iron Man fan, but I did collect and enjoy him back in those days. Edo's right and that creative team treated the character very well. Since then though, at times he is just a little too much of a self-centered jerk for me. For a villain like Doom, that kind of attitude is just fine. But for a hero, I'll take the sense of duty types like Cap and Spidey.<br /><br />Btw, great catch about C-3PO and the SW:ROTJ, Karen. I wouldn't have caught that. I know Lucas ripped-off.....er, I mean "borrowed" from a lot of Kurosawa's Samurai movies to create Star Wars. But did Marvel comics also influence the franchise??? Hmmm...Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00772306756607189999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-49657919260272352492012-12-10T07:47:13.307-06:002012-12-10T07:47:13.307-06:00p.s. I always loved those shots of Doom and Iron M...p.s. I always loved those shots of Doom and Iron Man working together to build that thing. Particularly the metal flat-top of Doom's hood-less head.<br /><br />I also just love the idea of "Hey, if we just work together, we can probably jury-rig a time machine..." You know, no big whup.B McMolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706178983936146307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-34272897546712879902012-12-10T07:42:56.303-06:002012-12-10T07:42:56.303-06:00Such a fun review! One of my favorite stories, the...Such a fun review! One of my favorite stories, then-and-now. Visually, Layton tells it so well - you chose some great representations of that. <br /><br />My entire view of Doctor Doom was more or less formed by IM 149-150, come to think of it.<br /><br />B McMolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706178983936146307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-19125923017857997322012-12-10T07:06:03.007-06:002012-12-10T07:06:03.007-06:00I've said it before and I'll say it again:...I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Michelinie/Layton/JRjr run on IM is the simply best run on that title. Nothing like it before or since. And I almost forgot how cool that time travel splash page is.<br />Doug, as to the scenography, I think JR & Layton were just following the majority of movie depictions of Camelot: the costumes, armor, and architecture always looks high medieval in those, rather than 5th or 6th century. And like in the movies, everyone looks clean and sparkly, rather than rather dingy and malodorous as they really would have been. Also, I think the least of Tony's worries with the "bedwarmer" would have been BO - he could have risked coming back with a pretty nasty case of the medieval clap...<br />Karen, I'll quite emphatically second your recommendation of "Triumph & Torment." It's one of my favorite Dr. Strange stories, and it's arguably the best Doom story. Stern and Mignola were really at the top of their games with that one.Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.com