tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post6432426885975111730..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: The Dark Knight Returned; But Was He Batman? Part ThreeDoughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-37147218389387238172018-06-20T23:03:59.323-05:002018-06-20T23:03:59.323-05:00fandango - Before walking into this movie , i real...<a href="https://365movies.is/tag/fandango" rel="nofollow">fandango</a> - Before walking into this movie , i really had great expectations, what with the rave reviews the movie was being lavished with and the seemingly awesome trailer. And then came the moment of truth,the movie was very ordinary. I saw nothing special in this movie for me to even remotely praise it. It was long, many gaps in the plot in addition to scenes and story lines which seemed senseless and had no follow -up. Plus, there really was nothing artistic about it and it didn't actually have the enjoyable cinematic experience moviegoers would want to relish in. This was further aggravated with the poor lines in the film. In short the movie didn't get me all excited or sucked me into it. Throughout the entire film I was hardly able to connect to the film. 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While I liked the "Dark Knight" series of comics on that fancy Baxter paper, it didn't continue with Frank's characters and went off in different directions. All the other DC artists and writers were putting their own versions of the character in the higher priced Baxter paper editions. <br /><br />As the title of the article states, "The Dark Knight Returned; but was he Batman?" I'd say yes. But a much older and grizzled Batman that knows there are less and less days ahead of him and he's not going to last forever. That gave the story an edge we never saw. <br /><br />Unfortunately, too many artists and writers went off the rails with this grim and gritty version of Batman. The character started to take a too dark a turn in a way I don't think Miller ever intended. R. Lloydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-17805470093773310712016-03-01T23:35:14.746-06:002016-03-01T23:35:14.746-06:00One of the things that I actually always have like...One of the things that I actually always have liked about DKR is the art. It just looks so hand drawn (if you know what I mean). I am big fan of more the cartoony art styles in comics.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16988016825582035390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-77365819371423731062016-03-01T17:08:39.530-06:002016-03-01T17:08:39.530-06:00On the politics thing. From what I heard one of t...On the politics thing. From what I heard one of the formative experiences for Mr. Miller was being mugged in NYC. So, I think he had some liberal views on Reagan (i.e., that he was a right wing nut case liable to get us into WWIII with the Soviets), but he was also becoming very conservative in his domestic views - i.e., he probably would have liked a Batman out there smashing up the muggers and thieves.<br /><br />On the other hand, there is the scene coming in issue 4 with Byron Brassballs, so who can say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-5888350402541555262016-02-29T18:33:54.545-06:002016-02-29T18:33:54.545-06:00Doug, One of the impressive things about the art w...Doug, One of the impressive things about the art was Miller's willingness to experiment; in particular, to be quite cartoony, a counter-intuitive approach given the themes of DKR, and daring at a time when the trend in comic art was going very much the other way. I mean, throughout the 70s and into the 80s, it was technically accomplished artists like John Buscema and Neal Adams that had set the standard to aim for. <br />Which made images like, say, that splash of Superman you included here so striking at the time. <br />Great stuff - looking forward to part 4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-17373794862610667622016-02-29T16:49:19.235-06:002016-02-29T16:49:19.235-06:00Fascinating, thought-provoking review, and comment...Fascinating, thought-provoking review, and comments. Many thanks to all; you have convinced me to give this a read...Redartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221459636234713619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-23505417563694567782016-02-29T12:47:32.948-06:002016-02-29T12:47:32.948-06:00Thanks for the comments, gents. Karen and I really...Thanks for the comments, gents. Karen and I really feel that the discussion points continue to deepen as this series goes on. It's certainly a work of art and literature worth a scholarly look. Who knows? Maybe there are a few dissertations out there that dissected TDKR.<br /><br />And Sean -- again, I'll retract my former comments on the art throughout the series. With a very few exceptions sprinkled here and there, it is generally spectacular throughout.<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-23986318472344461352016-02-29T12:42:31.076-06:002016-02-29T12:42:31.076-06:00On the lasting impact of TDKR:
This tale not only...On the lasting impact of TDKR:<br /><br />This tale not only put a different and lasting spin on Batman, but seems to have imprinted a permanent change on the Joker as well. Prior, there was an “always in good fun” tone to his mockery and jesting, as though Batman was simply someone to taunt and make sport of for his own psycho jollies. Today, that final panel of the Joker laughing is the Joker we know—a hate-filled and deeply pyschopathic mass murderer. The depiction of the Joker as deeply bound to Batman, deeply in need of Batman, gets forged here—and we see that reiterated in Christopher Nolan’s film—”you complete me.”<br /><br />I do love that line, “whatever’s in him rustles as it leaves.” I have always loved that line.Pat Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787799814630339641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-26111623365955797162016-02-29T08:16:18.288-06:002016-02-29T08:16:18.288-06:00You hit the nail on the head at the start of this ...You hit the nail on the head at the start of this piece, that its the subtext of DKR that gives it staying power; thats what made it different to earlier superhero comics (and, as it turned out, most later ones too!) and why it had such an impact.<br />I always liked the way the politics of the book were unclear... in more recent years I guess we have a better idea of the author's politics, but it would be a pity to allow some of Frank Miller's later comments to get in the way of enjoying DKR.<br /><br />On Ronald Reagan - didn't DKR, or at least this issue, come out right in the middle of the Iran/Contra thing, Oliver North and all that? Seems like that might be relevant here...<br /><br />-seanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-84429770810963503892016-02-29T07:31:26.614-06:002016-02-29T07:31:26.614-06:00Heh - I haven't seen the video for 'Land O...Heh - I haven't seen the video for 'Land Of Confusion' since it was new. All those puppets were from a popular satirical TV show called Spitting Image that ran from 1984 till 1996 - Ronald Reagan was portrayed like that every week, as a senile old fool. And we had Dr. Ruth over here too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-31952638877310611722016-02-29T07:27:30.851-06:002016-02-29T07:27:30.851-06:00Yep, your points on Miller's politics have me ...Yep, your points on Miller's politics have me scratching my head, too. That's what I alluded to in my comment on your first installment of this review: the last time I read this, before my current re-reading of about a week ago, was in the early 1990s, and then, as when I first read it, my impression was that Miller was coming at this from a - for lack of a better term - left standpoint (there's no doubt reading this that he was not a big fan of Reagan or big corporations pulling the strings behind the scenes). However, now, despite his obvious satirical digs at certain aspects of 1980s American patriotism, I'm not so sure about that - of course, my view here is not only influenced by a renewed reading of DKR, but also Miller's recent forays into political commentary. <br /><br />I'm with you on your thoughts on Robin, by the way. As I said in the last post, I like the character and her role in this story, but it really stretches credibility (and yes, I'm aware that we're talking about super-hero comics here). I also agree with Doug's observations about Catwoman. I really do not understand, and never ever liked, Miller's need to cast her as a prostitute.<br />Also, 'Corto Maltese.' I'm guessing that this is some kind of tribute/hat-tip to the Italian comic of the same name?Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.com