tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post7387462423452075666..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: Who's the Best... Captain America Artist?Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-82311054397436061012016-08-24T19:29:02.755-05:002016-08-24T19:29:02.755-05:00Repeating what a ton of others on here have alread...Repeating what a ton of others on here have already said:<br /><br />1) Kirby(just...iconic.)<br />2) Romita (just had a certain panache.)<br />3) Heck (complimented the Kirby look.)<br /><br />and for the record, yes, i agree, Colan, as good as he was, wasn't suited for Cap. (for all the reasons already mentioned...Tomb of Dracula, anyone?)spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14576369979304207262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-34842450841528979142012-11-08T20:24:39.135-06:002012-11-08T20:24:39.135-06:00Whoops! The first line should be Al Avison/Syd Sho...Whoops! The first line should be Al Avison/Syd Shores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-14922577681313024062012-11-08T20:14:03.251-06:002012-11-08T20:14:03.251-06:00My list for Cap's best of:
Syd Shores
Jack Ki...My list for Cap's best of:<br /><br />Syd Shores<br />Jack Kirby (60's)<br />Joe Simon & Kirby 40's<br />Jim Steranko<br />John ByrneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-4293233898012361582012-11-07T15:28:39.751-06:002012-11-07T15:28:39.751-06:00Sal Buscema, closely followed by Jack Kirby, then ...Sal Buscema, closely followed by Jack Kirby, then John Buscema, then Romita (Sr.), then Byrne, Heck, Perez.<br />Sal gets the nod in part because he had the good fortune to draw the Englehart stuff, but so did Frank Robbins, so it's not just the scripts. <br />He's a great story teller, but can do fantastic action and "poster" type shots too.<br />To be fair to Kirby, I do think if he's been Englehart's artist he's probably get my top Cap artist spot.Tom Spasichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00507023271923652879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-7690258667950750562012-11-07T11:52:19.333-06:002012-11-07T11:52:19.333-06:00Joe Simon
Jack Kirby
John Buscema
Sal BuscemaJoe Simon<br />Jack Kirby<br />John Buscema<br />Sal BuscemaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-20391140262368613982012-11-07T09:27:22.561-06:002012-11-07T09:27:22.561-06:00I really like John Romita's version of Cap, bu...I really like John Romita's version of Cap, but then, he was drawing the book when I first started reading it. Still, I think he did a great job on the character, and on the Falcon.<br /><br />I also like both the Buscema brothers.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-9477817963866172902012-11-07T00:32:43.812-06:002012-11-07T00:32:43.812-06:00Jack Sparling drew Cap!?! Yeeeesshhh! He makes Don...Jack Sparling drew Cap!?! Yeeeesshhh! He makes Don Heck in the 70's look like a genius. I can safely say I will never be tempted to google that one.<br /><br />Today's topic has illuminated a very important fact to me. Captain America has been rendered by an amazing number of the best that American comic books has to offer since 1941. There are two names that I feel should be added to the roll-call. Syd Shores, whom I believe was the primary artist after S & K left in the 40's, and Alex Schomburg, who drew those amazingly crazy Timely covers. They also served. <br /><br />James ChattertonUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15576083934906136102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-17107766841957123682012-11-06T20:38:28.575-06:002012-11-06T20:38:28.575-06:00Kirby of course.
Sal Buscema in second place, and...Kirby of course.<br /><br />Sal Buscema in second place, and George Perez in third.vancouver marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-61155416404143396132012-11-06T20:32:15.368-06:002012-11-06T20:32:15.368-06:00Gotta go with the original - Jack Kirby! Sure, you...Gotta go with the original - Jack Kirby! Sure, you might not like how he draws blocky fingers, but no one captured the essence of Cap more than he did. Second would be Our Pal Sal Buscema.<br /><br />- Mike 'Captain Trinidad' from Trinidad & Tobago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-32855742474477377182012-11-06T18:22:48.032-06:002012-11-06T18:22:48.032-06:00As I said yesterday, I love Kirby's Cap in Tal...As I said yesterday, I love Kirby's Cap in Tales of Suspense from issues 82-100. It's vaulted over Thor and Kamandi to become my favorite Kirby work! Action nonstop, cool villains, some romance...and Kirby's art is realistic and detailed. I think he hit a peak in about '67, with earlier stuff being on the small side, and later stuff becoming too abstract and slapdash.<br /><br />So Kirby takes my #1 spot for Cap. I loved Byrne's run as a kid, find it just so-so now. John Buscema is always great, so he's up there...Romita's quick run around #140 was really appealing. I liked Zeck when it came out, but now prefer his Master of Kung Fu art--he suits that title better. Colan is striking, but not quite the right mood as others have mentioned.<br /><br />How about Jack Sparling in ToS #87? I looked at the splash page, and I couldn'a look at any more! : ( Garcia Lopez would do Cap well, with his strength and clean lines. For modern guys, I liked Steve Epting's run. I read John Cassaday's run, but didn't find he worked with Cap that well, just ok. I like Cassaday's art, but he's a bit peculiar, with so much sharpness in the faces--better on his X-Men run, or Planetary. I don't get a thrill from Gil Kane's Cap--much better on the Atom.Garettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-23432214956613098252012-11-06T18:21:00.883-06:002012-11-06T18:21:00.883-06:00I'll go with Kirby, mainly for the latter or s...I'll go with Kirby, mainly for the latter or so issues of Tales of Suspense, with the Red Skull, the Cosmic Cube, A.I.M., the Super Adaptoid & MODOK, among other crazy stuff. Sal Buscema is a sentimental favorite for his run with Englehart in the early to mid-70s. Steranko was too brief, but, yeah, what an impact! Byrne, however, really drew the best Cap, IMO, at least of all the depictions I'd seen up to the late '80s. Fred W. Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07602124919964053532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-27354351124304671722012-11-06T16:53:35.055-06:002012-11-06T16:53:35.055-06:00I'm going with Sal B. It's a close call, b...I'm going with Sal B. It's a close call, but that's only fitting on this Tuesday of all Tuesday's. <br /><br />Simon & Kirby not only set the template for Cap in the 40's, but also crystalized that amazingly kenetic sense of energy they had at the same time. Kirby was great on Cap in the 60's too, but it was nothing like his brilliant work on the FF or Thor.<br /><br />Steranko was mind-bendingly brilliant. But that's more for his overall design work, which is where his innovations lay.<br /><br />Sal, on the other hand, captured the soul of Cap for me. Artistically speaking, Sal was not in the same class as innovators like Kirby or Steranko. But he held up his end on the Englehart run. And you sure can't argue with that great looking cover adorning the BAB today. Classic Cap!<br /><br />I like Colan, but his moody swath of shadows never worked for me on Cap. Maybe if the Falcon had been a vampire...<br /><br />John Buscema, Adams, Romita, Perez, Byrne and 60's Heck all did fine work, I thought. But when I think of Cap, I picture him as drawn by Sal B.<br /><br />Just to show that I can conform with the best of them: I hated Robbins' work on Cap, and Batman. And yet, he worked for me on The Invaders, inked by Colletta no less. Go figure.<br /><br />Robbins was an old-time adventure strip artist who switched to comic books late in his career. He was actually pretty good (kind of like Canniff or Sickles). I can see why he was afforded so much respect by editors at the time. Syndicated strips were considered the big leagues back then.<br /><br />My brother-in-law gave me that Alan Weiss issue last year. It was beyond horrible. Well, not beyond Robbins-horrible, but pretty bad. The fact that the story and dialogue sucked didn't help.<br /><br />James Chatterton<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-4754032484823652512012-11-06T16:13:35.683-06:002012-11-06T16:13:35.683-06:00I've never really been a big fan of Captain Am...I've never really been a big fan of Captain America. I've always preferred him in Avengers to his solo adventures, and the best Avengers artist ever was John Buscema.Ray Tomczakhttp://guttertalkcomicsblog.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-41474217816028667282012-11-06T15:50:53.340-06:002012-11-06T15:50:53.340-06:00Chain mail? Isn't that, like, a federal offens...Chain mail? Isn't that, like, a federal offense? Cap would never get involved in anything like that ... ;)Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-20242965210262426442012-11-06T15:04:01.291-06:002012-11-06T15:04:01.291-06:00Are there any thoughts about more recent artists s...Are there any thoughts about more recent artists such as John Cassaday or Alex Ross? If you like chain mail, these two guys will give you chain mail!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-68466176733352386912012-11-06T15:00:48.336-06:002012-11-06T15:00:48.336-06:00Mike Zeck--
2nd place-- George Perez
starfoxxxMike Zeck--<br /><br />2nd place-- George Perez<br /><br />starfoxxxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-62226121284838232492012-11-06T13:10:43.405-06:002012-11-06T13:10:43.405-06:00In response to Richard regarding Gene Colan, I hav...In response to Richard regarding Gene Colan, I have to disagree. Colan was a great artist but his style just wasn't particularly well-suited to Cap. A patriotic hero like him needs a more traditional style that emphasizes the heroic.<br /><br />Colan's fluid style is better suited to mystery and horror, which is why it worked so well for Daredevil, Dr. Strange, Batman, etc...Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-1377986434689895422012-11-06T12:19:33.674-06:002012-11-06T12:19:33.674-06:00On a side note/tangent, I was fairly disappointed ...On a side note/tangent, I was fairly disappointed when Mego rolled out their Cap figure back in '73. Was waiting for this figure MORE than any other.<br /><br />The Kirby box art used was fine, but the head was obviously painted to reflect Kirby-esque intensity.<br /><br />It just looked silly.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-49037718716345182982012-11-06T10:25:31.643-06:002012-11-06T10:25:31.643-06:00Cap NEVER looked better than when Big John rendere...Cap NEVER looked better than when Big John rendered him in his first great run on The Avengers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-8709770330649483472012-11-06T09:39:16.073-06:002012-11-06T09:39:16.073-06:00For future reference John Byrne is also my answer ...For future reference John Byrne is also my answer for the questions "Who's the Best... X-Men Artist, Fantastic Four Artist, Avengers Artist (East and West Coast), Hulk Artist and Superman Artist."Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16988016825582035390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-51976174312440048842012-11-06T09:32:49.434-06:002012-11-06T09:32:49.434-06:00John Byrne had my favorite stint on Cap (issue 247...John Byrne had my favorite stint on Cap (issue 247-255). It was helped even further by his pairing with writer Roger Stern.<br /><br />Sal Buscema is a close second. He was the artist during my second favorite run on the book (issue 227-237).<br /><br />I also enjoyed the book when Mike Zeck was drawing it.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16988016825582035390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-75580784303718634372012-11-06T08:39:16.695-06:002012-11-06T08:39:16.695-06:00Wow.., a SUPER question today.
In order of greatn...Wow.., a SUPER question today.<br /><br />In order of greatness (and loyalty):<br /><br />1) Sal Buscema (with Frank Giacoia, perhaps Verpoorten or Tartaglione) were the definitive step up from Romita, Sal's the stalwart as far as I'm concerned as represented 'my Cap'. I mention those inkers because when Sal returned after Kirby's stint, inks by Marcos and Esposito weren't nearly as strong, but I blame the lack of strong Thomas or Englehart storylines as well.<br /><br />2) Kirby solely for his greatness in those TOS stories, most of which comprised the Marvel cartoons of the 60s, where my love began. Richard's mention of the Skull on Cap's ceiling was an awesome example. The Sleeper saga and Cap's recollection of losing Peggy were the pinnacle of 'Cap by Kirby' story-telling.<br /><br />3) Steranko, after a few dabbles of Cap art in Strange Tales via visits with Fury, his ever-so-brief tenure is considered landmark reading for it's style and innovative surreal artscapes (with Rick being hit with hallucinogenic knockout gas in ish 111), effectively lifting Cap out of the muck and mire he was allowed to slide into with Kirby after the first couple of issues of his own mag. I credit Steranko solely for making Cap's solo title both exciting and relevant again.<br /><br />4) Big John, immediately following Steranko (um, "Who.. else.. could..??") with a beefier, more traditional hero style and zest.<br /><br />5) I'd say Zeck, since like Edo mentioned, provided some nice art in unfortunately a lot of forgettable stories.<br /><br />6) Byrne, not that I didn't like him, just seemed too clean and routine at times. Beautiful, but nothing too striking.<br /><br />And a big shout out to Alan Weiss for a oddly-cool guest stint in ish 164.<br /><br />As for Romita, loved him in Spidey of course, but just seemed too weak as a Cap artist, making me prefer Colan. Colan was super as a fill-in 'done-in-one' artist and did add some good depth and fluid motion, but I'd agree didn't depict Cap's fighting style as well as Sal or Kirby, which is different than say, Daredevil, which Colan's more well known for.<br /><br />Great point made for Heck as well by a few folks here. His early Avengers art remains his finest in my book, his DD stint comes in second. Any other Silver or Bronze work ALWAYS made me regret picking up the comic ('70s Teen Titans and Batman Family, anyone..??).david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-3264298854160150902012-11-06T07:55:45.153-06:002012-11-06T07:55:45.153-06:00Whew, what a question... People have covered the r...Whew, what a question... People have covered the reasons for these choices pretty well. My own criteria is they had to stay on the book long enough to define a particular era of Cap. So, I'll go with<br /><br />1. Jack Kirby<br />2. John Romita<br />3. Mike Zeck<br />4. Don Heck<br />5. Sal BuscemaB McMolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706178983936146307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-65532330203484003622012-11-06T07:25:08.400-06:002012-11-06T07:25:08.400-06:00Hi Edo – Glad you mentioned Zeck. I have not got ...Hi Edo – Glad you mentioned Zeck. I have not got round to reading his run yet, so can’t really comment, but several of his covers have really leapt out at me. <br /><br />I think Colan is not getting enough love here. Given that Cap is not really ultra-strong and doesn’t really have other super powers, fundamentally he’s just the ultimate fighting machine. I never really got that from Kirby’s square shouldered, lantern-jawed quarterback. Colan’s more fluid style captured Cap much better in my opinion. <br /><br />Adams/Palmer – I agree with Karen that they make Thor too skinny, but that kind of lithe and toned-muscle look really suited Cap. <br /><br />Kirby gets the sentimental nod for the TOS stories set in the war and post-wake-up issues which were really more of the same thing. The Sleeper Awakes. Ahhhhh.....remember the face of the Red Skull coalescing in the shadows on Cap’s ceiling? I still do after 35 years. <br /><br />Big John – superb in his 60’s run on the Avengers, but also that 80’s run with Tom Palmer. Remember that panel where the mansion has been trashed and the few meagre possessions he had in his locker are destroyed and he just sinks to his knees holding a Lou Gehrig baseball card? He looked super muscular, but also like a helpless child at the same time. Big, bad John. <br /><br />Sal Buscema – no. I think we remember that run too fondly because it was so well written by Englehart. If that run had been written by Tony Isabella or Gary Friedrich or someone, I really doubt we’d remember it so fondly based on the artwork alone. <br /><br />Steranko – no, I don’t think so. Those issues are absolutely superb – cinematic, noirish, innovative, huge splash pages, rule book? What rule book? Loved them. But are they in any way intrinsically Captain America? Does that style bring something to Cap that it didn’t bring to Fury? And conversely, does Cap bring something thematic to Jaunty Jim that he didn't get from any other subject matter? I don’t theeenk so. <br /><br />So I come back to Byrne /Rubinstein. Because they delivered it all. The huge built broad shouldered physique of Kirby, the quickness of Colan, the sleek dynamism of Adams/Palmer. I really believed he was wearing chain mail and I believed he was wearing it effortlessly. Shame it didn’t last longer. <br /><br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-47542495857972102642012-11-06T06:55:10.099-06:002012-11-06T06:55:10.099-06:00In Descending Order:
Jim Steranko (Just three iss...In Descending Order:<br /><br />Jim Steranko (Just three issues but we still talk about them.)<br />John Byrne (His style is perfect for Cap.)<br />John Buscema (Love his work on Cap in the Avengers.)<br />Jack Kirby (Yes, fourth: Kirby's style was better suited to cosmic characters like Thor and Orion than regular costumed types. Still, his exaggerated style is fun with Cap.)<br />Sal Buscema (His long run on Cap is one of the best.)<br />Don Heck (His Kooky Quartet run on Avengers is the best art of his career.)Inkstained Wretchnoreply@blogger.com