tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post8645469265360737766..comments2024-03-19T10:41:35.976-05:00Comments on Bronze Age Babies: Guest Post - Inaugural Post: If I Had a Buck...Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-85905614205706155182015-06-05T10:57:32.672-05:002015-06-05T10:57:32.672-05:00HB -look for some Carol Danvers movie talk tomorro...HB -look for some Carol Danvers movie talk tomorrow (plus a little something extra).Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-19007921225976736182015-06-05T05:49:20.130-05:002015-06-05T05:49:20.130-05:00#1, #10, and #15 would do me fine. I actually had ...#1, #10, and #15 would do me fine. I actually had 1 and 10 as a kid (and still do), acquired through a trade I suspect because the other boys on my block didn't want a girl comic. Classic Bronze Age title and #10, with Carol bashing MODOK by Sal Buscema, is an all-time, top-20 Marvel Bronze Age cover for me, at least in the nostalgia category! Sal is THE Bronze Age artist in my book and MODOK is so awesome, this is quite the perfect storm. Some good action inside, too, if I remember correctly.<br /><br />The first issue does a good job of setting things up but it's not surprising no one bought what Stan and the Gang were selling. Not that anything was selling back then. But a feminist-themed character based on a marginally popular male hero was not designed to excite young boys. My ownership of these books gave me a fondness for the character, and I was later very excited to meet her again, with a new costume, in the Avengers. Both costumes I think may have excited a pre-pubescent me as well, with strange new feelings. (I would have picked up the Tiger Shark cover because my brother collected Submariner and I knew the character.)<br /><br />A fascinating hero history up to today.BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14262262627667900995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-83051699847449206712015-06-05T05:05:51.775-05:002015-06-05T05:05:51.775-05:00Karen, I almost jumped in w/ a comment on your las...Karen, I almost jumped in w/ a comment on your last statement, BUT wouldn't it be a solid discussion-worthy post all it's own? Do you think there's room to shoe-horn it in sometime soon?<br /><br />"Who would you like to see cast as Carol Danvers. . . and why?"<br /><br />HBHumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-80699694841310316102015-06-04T23:03:25.227-05:002015-06-04T23:03:25.227-05:00Redartz, thankfully that wasn't my neighborhoo...Redartz, thankfully that wasn't my neighborhood! I used to roam far and wide collecting bottles.<br /><br />I never cared much for Ms. Marvel's red and blue outfit, especially that scarf! It just screamed, "Here, go ahead and strangle me! I've made it easy for you!"<br /><br />There's been a lot of talk about who will play Carol in the Marvel films. I just hope they get a good actress, someone who can convincingly play such a complicated character.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-12137771454898083182015-06-04T21:37:53.008-05:002015-06-04T21:37:53.008-05:001,5, & 15, for reasons others have listed.
I...1,5, & 15, for reasons others have listed. <br /><br />I'm glad Carol Danvers has become a major character in recent years. I think she never took off because she lacked distinction. She struck me as a bland super heroine, kind of like Wonder Woman, with Marvel problems. She wasn't bad but she wasn't as cool as Black Widow or the various X-Women.<br /><br />I read vol. 1 of the Kelly Due DeConnick era and liked it. Focusing on her Air Force history and love of flying was a good choice. I find Monica Rambeau more interesting, though, and would have loved to see Marvel give her a push. <br /><br />- Mike LoughlinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-79906576521357382192015-06-04T21:08:34.425-05:002015-06-04T21:08:34.425-05:00Wasn't this a great topic?? And we have anothe...Wasn't this a great topic?? And we have another couple coming your way in the next few weeks. <br /><br />I'm buying #s 1, 5, and 15 -- all of which I had back in the day, by the way. That JB Tiger Shark cover is incredible, and I'll side with the Vision on #5 as a fave. Of course, back then it was #1s like this, Peter Parker, the Champions, the Invaders, etc. that made every visit to the spinner rack a potential surprise.<br /><br />Thanks, Mike!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-17329771917217671952015-06-04T20:19:16.566-05:002015-06-04T20:19:16.566-05:00Great fun topic, Mike/Martinex1! Loads of terrific...Great fun topic, Mike/Martinex1! Loads of terrific stories ( fun stories, and horror- wow, Karen, you had an interesting neighborhood!). Like many of you, I was out scrounging for comic coin; picking up pennies, scouring the alleys for bottles, even finding forgotten funds in the change dispenser of the drug store pop machines ( amazing how many people , even then, would abandon their spare nickels and dimes). My allowance was a start, but didn't go near far enough. Not with so much Bronze age goodness available (and the thirst of a youth for sugar and caffeine). <br /><br />My choices, here, would be issue 1 : Romita cover; and the cast- eternal arachnophile I am, how could I resist?<br />Issue 12- fine Starlin cover. Nuff said.<br />Issue 15- Tiger Shark and Namorita ( hey, I was a teenage boy too...).<br /><br /> Incidentally, Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel is quite the property these days. Anyone read the current run of stories; I haven't but they sound pretty good. And she looks great in MarVell's old union suit.Redartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221459636234713619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-37528442511651820202015-06-04T19:00:31.062-05:002015-06-04T19:00:31.062-05:00That's great pfgavigan. It's even better...That's great pfgavigan. It's even better thinking Roy is asking for the candy bars. J Jonah Jameson style. A Zagnut and a Marathon Bar stat! Now back to business!<br /><br />I agree that her character was derivative and most of the early conflicts were second rate or against borrowed villains like the Scorpion. But in Claremont's later efforts and adversaries like Deathbird and the introduction of Mystique, and guests like Vance Astro, and a new costume,the series began to have a style of its own...and then it ended.<br /><br />Regarding the cutout midriff, I think Dave Cockrum updated it mid series to cover her up and then updated the costume again to the navy with the lightning bolt and sashMartinex1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-52300482973503351152015-06-04T18:53:04.799-05:002015-06-04T18:53:04.799-05:00I soooo need to buy up these old issues.., but a f...I soooo need to buy up these old issues.., but a funny memory I have was sitting with a buddy of mine back around 1974. We both got a quarter to spend, he spent it on a bag of Fritos.., I spent it on FF 150. I vividly remember him looking at me cross-eyed for wasting my money on a comic.<br /><br />'Hey, I'd have dinner later that night..' And I still have that beloved issue, and memory. <br /><br />Too funny.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-77777745031690102112015-06-04T18:06:13.391-05:002015-06-04T18:06:13.391-05:00Hiya,
sorry about previous post,
something screw...Hiya,<br /><br />sorry about previous post,<br /><br />something screwed it up.<br /><br />gerry conway has a long reach<br /><br />pfgaviganpfgaviganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05446007678336988354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-33760456524569288572015-06-04T18:05:14.253-05:002015-06-04T18:05:14.253-05:00Hiya,
For me, Ms Marvel was sort of a filler titl...Hiya,<br /><br />For me, Ms Marvel was sort of a filler title, if nothing else that I regularly bought was available I'd take a look at it. <br /><br />What I think would have been more interesting would have been the meetings at the Marvel editorial offices leading up to her titles' launch. The next bit will make sense if you imagine Roy Thomas being played by Jack Webb and Harry Morgan as Gerry Conway.<br /><br />"Hey, Gerry!"<br /><br />As for my purchases. Issue 5, Issue 16, and two candy bars.<br /><br />pfgavigan<br /><br />"Yeah, Roy!?!"<br /><br />"Wanna write the first issue of the Ms. Marvel !?!"<br /><br />"Only if I can make her as derivative of a character as I can! Base everything that I can on that Kree version that we keep bringing back and cancelling and give the character no real reason to exist !"<br /><br />"Done, but you're going to have to write two issues of uninspired dialogue and weak motivation before we foist this dog off onto that Claremont guy ! "<br /><br />"Done ! Hey, Roy !?!"<br /><br />"Yes, Gerry !?!"<br /><br />"Why do our sentences keep ending in exclamation points !?!"<br /><br />"It's a comic book thing !"<br /><br />As for my purchases, issue 5, issue 16 and two candy bars.<br /><br />pfgavigan<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />pfgaviganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05446007678336988354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-30098200373068757772015-06-04T15:41:39.912-05:002015-06-04T15:41:39.912-05:00I'd pick #10. Because MODOK is an A-lister, a...I'd pick #10. Because MODOK is an A-lister, and a lot of the other covers feature Ms. Marvel being victimized in some way. On #10, she's decking MODOK.J.A. Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15800901321134394272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-30173903878426399502015-06-04T15:05:44.999-05:002015-06-04T15:05:44.999-05:00Ha ha Edo. Starchild is much more ambitious a mon...Ha ha Edo. Starchild is much more ambitious a moniker compared to my rather pedestrian name. But I appreciate the sentiment. If only my parents were so adventurous.<br /><br />Karen, those stories are downright creepy. Refrigerator box man seems like something out of some crazy fever dream horror movie. I think my Schwinn Sttingray tires would have been smoking getting out of there! Oh the risks comic lovers will go through for that extra dime.<br /><br />As I was researching this topic, I was honestly surprised how on model all of the artists stayed at the time. I could pick out the styling a of John Buscema and the wider face of a Cockrum character, but even those nuances were slight. A lot of folks seem to like the Vision cover. I wonder if Vision could have succeeded with his own title.Martinex1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-76231692977477268182015-06-04T14:22:54.435-05:002015-06-04T14:22:54.435-05:00Karen, yep, I did the bottle and can collecting th...Karen, yep, I did the bottle and can collecting thing to get extra funds. The good thing about Oregon was that the return deposit for glass bottles was 10 cents, and 5 cents for aluminum cans and plastic bottles, so on a good day you could get some serious cash (for comics and such at least). Also, my parents let me keep the money from any bottle/cans from our household. Never had any scary, surreal and/or potentially emotionally damaging episodes like yours on my collecting rounds: we didn't live in town, and so I just picked stuff up from roadside ditches - yes, even with the relatively generous return deposit, litterbugs still threw containers (usually for beer) out their car windowsEdo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-23834633381441257152015-06-04T13:53:03.010-05:002015-06-04T13:53:03.010-05:00First, I want to thank Mike for coming up with a g...First, I want to thank Mike for coming up with a great new topic and a great inaugural post! Now, to my picks, I'm going with #s 3, 5, and 15. #3 because I like the rocket and crazy robot, #5 because it's got the Vision guest-starring, and #15 not for the reasons you guys all proclaimed but because it's got Tiger Shark, who I always thought looked cool, AND it's drawn by John Buscema! To be honest, I think I DID buy these issues back in the day! I was not a consistent Ms. Marvel reader but I picked up issues when I liked the cover so it's not surprising that I went with these. I am not sure if I had number 3 but I know I had 5 and 15. <br /><br />I love hearing everyone talk about having to scrape up extra funds. I still recall early Saturday morning bottle runs, riding my bike and scrounging up glass bottles from all sorts of strange places, balancing a bag full in one arm or maybe wearing an old boy scout backpack of my brother's (this was before everyone had backpacks, and they had absolutely no padding or rigidity, just basically bags with little straps)stuffed full of bottles. I saw some strange things, sometimes. Once someone who was hiding inside a refrigerator box jumped out of a doorway in a back alley and started yelling "I want it so bad!" and was jumping up and down, wearing the box. Honestly, I am not making this up -who could make that up? I just pedaled away as fast as I could! Another time I was with a friend collecting bottles and a guy waved to us from the balcony of his apartment and said something -when we looked up, he flashed us. Yeah, we earned the money we got to buy our comics!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032477453891087135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-12235014191423159152015-06-04T13:41:09.043-05:002015-06-04T13:41:09.043-05:00I'd go for #10 (because of MODOK), 15, and 16 ...I'd go for #10 (because of MODOK), 15, and 16 (because of Tiger Shark and Namorita). I've actually read all the Ms. Marvels at one time, but I don't remember them too well. I'd like to check out the later Ms. Marvel series by Brian Reed...it's supposed to be pretty good.<br /><br />To contribute to the money conversation, we have $1 and $2 coins in Canada, and we recently got rid of our pennies (though the tills haven't caught up yet); in Australia they got rid of the one cent and five cent coins a while back, and I asked an Australian guy how he felt about it...he said it was way better. I don't miss the penny, that's for sure!<br /><br />Mike WilsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-12944559311148736002015-06-04T13:23:02.866-05:002015-06-04T13:23:02.866-05:00Agreed on #15 as a teen, Edo. I mean, there's ...Agreed on #15 as a teen, Edo. I mean, there's midriff and then there's super-heroines in bikinis that...<br /><br />...how in the world does that thing stay on?<br /><br />TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-34082687289465452922015-06-04T13:19:50.931-05:002015-06-04T13:19:50.931-05:00HB, The 2001 series was a follow on from the treas...HB, The 2001 series was a follow on from the treasury... maybe you're recalling something else? Entirely possible, as Kirby did tend to explore similar themes in his 70s Marvels. Some might even say he repeated himself a bit (imagine that!). I thought for ages I'd read some of the Bicentennial Battles treasury in his Cap run.<br /><br />Mind you, I was a bit clueless on dollar coins, so what do I know...?<br /><br />-seanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-20510844056228253552015-06-04T12:52:51.142-05:002015-06-04T12:52:51.142-05:00Happy Corpus Christi right back atcha, Mike (I thi...Happy Corpus Christi right back atcha, Mike (I think we've established before that it's also a holiday in Croatia - not that I savored it: it was yard-work aaaaaallll afternoon, until damn near sunset, on an otherwise beautiful day).<br /><br />Martinex/Mike S(tarchild) (go check out the comments in the Avengers: Age of Ultron post if you're puzzling over that reference), love this idea! And I like the inaugural subject. I find all of these covers really attractive, but I have to say that if I were faced with this challenge back in the day, when this series was still coming out, at about the age of 9 or 10, I simply would have went with #s 1, 3 and 5, because even then I was a bit of a completist, and made every attempt to read everything in order/from the beginning if possible.<br />Perhaps if I were a little older, i.e., an early teen, I probably would have seriously considered #15, for what I think are obvious reasons...Edo Bosnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-18991139892785680122015-06-04T12:23:19.802-05:002015-06-04T12:23:19.802-05:00Oho, am I remembering that backwards then, sean? ...Oho, am I remembering that backwards then, sean? Treasury first. . . and then the first four issues of the series was the reprint? (Geeze, hard to believe I was that much of a zuvembie, that I'd buy the reprints just for the sake of. . . buying them. Come to think of it, I also tended to buy the Hulk reprints in Marvel Superheroes pretty often, even though I had those original issues as well. . . good grief!)<br /><br />HBHumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-2676601031327592462015-06-04T12:15:08.461-05:002015-06-04T12:15:08.461-05:00Btw HB, the 2001 treasury was, as they used to say...Btw HB, the 2001 treasury was, as they used to say, "all new", so hang on to those super rare originals:)<br />I got it and thought it money well spent. But the reprint treasuries always seemed good value to me too - classic Thor and Red Nails were well worth it.<br /><br />-seanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-18592742821094098832015-06-04T11:43:26.999-05:002015-06-04T11:43:26.999-05:00Sheesh Mike-- my midrift in that little opening wo...Sheesh Mike-- my midrift in that little opening would be an appalling sight. Somewhere in the realm of a sideways, protruding muffin-top, I think. . . <br /><br />(I mean, the name IS Humanbelly-!)<br /><br />HBHumanbellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-20292857834834951422015-06-04T11:41:16.708-05:002015-06-04T11:41:16.708-05:00I love the cover for #8. I'd definitely get th...I love the cover for #8. I'd definitely get that one.Dr. Oyolahttp://themiddlespaces.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-66919984703878617002015-06-04T10:45:53.312-05:002015-06-04T10:45:53.312-05:00Happy Corpus Christi holiday everyone! Wait, that&...Happy Corpus Christi holiday everyone! Wait, that's only in T & T,oh, nevermind ... :)<br /><br />Hmm lessee now, I'd buy that first ish, then the one with the Vision as guest star, then lastly the one with Tiger Shark 'cause you gotta love sharks, for a grand total of 95 cents. If only modern comics were those prices!<br /><br />I think that original midriff exposing costume was the handiwork of John Romita. If I'm not mistaken, another of his creations, Satana also had an exposed belly baring costume. Both creations of the John Romita school of Superhero Design!<br /><br /><br />- Mike 'you really don't want to see my exposed midriff' from Trinidad & Tobago. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293155946761960913.post-32608693681816568352015-06-04T10:41:56.927-05:002015-06-04T10:41:56.927-05:00Hi all. Thanks for commenting.
Colin, as HB state...Hi all. Thanks for commenting.<br /><br />Colin, as HB stated, the US has "experimented" with dollar coins for a long time. They have had various facings, from Eisenhower in the 70s to Susan B. Anthony to Sacagawea more recently. The dollar coin has existed in various forms for centuries, but in recent decades there has been a hope that it would replace or at least eat into the use of the paper bill. But I guess we are a stubborn lot because it has not gained much traction. Like HB, I prefer the light weight of the paper bill. I also pick up pennies; I guess that comes from my comic collecting scrounging. As HB said, we should probably eliminate the nickel and penny; they make no sense (cents).<br /><br />As I was creating this post, I chose issues 5, 10, and 15. Issue 5 featured one of my favorite Avengers, the Vision, in an all too rare guest appearance. Yes, he was in Team Up but he rarely earned an appearance outside the team book. And I really like Ed Hannigan's layout with the Viz coming through the truck. This was the only issue of Ms Marvel that I actually bought off the rack. As Garett stated the Doom Wagon is definitely D List material, but i couldn't resist. Issue 10 has Sal Buscema art and MM slugging Modok. Modok is so creepy that every time I see him I am intrigued. I hope to see his oversized noggin at the cineplex someday. And Issue 15 with Big John art is my favorite of the bunch. His Tiger Shark is awesome. And again I have to give praise to the logo design; I like the flaming letters on this title and I think the color scheme looks best on 15. <br /><br />I didn't choose the first issue for two reasons. I was actually turned off by what I felt was pandering to the Spidey crowd. In the series, Carol Danvers is set up as a magazine editor under J Jonah Jameson's tutelage. I would have preferred her to have her own set of supporting characters. And secondly, I remember this book on the stands and I looked at it week after week and considered it, but passed it by time and time again. It wasn't a problem with Ms Marvel herself as I liked her design and her character over the years. Not sure exactly why, but I will bow to my 10 year old sensibilities. But I have to say Romita was fantastic.<br /><br />When I selected the choices for the post, it was very subjective but I liked them all for one reason or another. I suppose some of the other Cockrum covers are better, but I couldn't resist any hero fighting a giant octopus. I also avoided her new costume because I wanted to compare the art with like characters. <br /><br />I am surprised the Ms. Marvel title didn't do better. I thought the covers alone were above par for a series at the time. <br /><br />I hope my future offerings interest you as I like comparing and contrasting. Martinex1noreply@blogger.com