Today the BAB is proud to welcome one of our long-time and faithful readers/commenters to the writer's chair. You know him as Dr. Oyola; he regularly writes about comics and music on his own blog, The Middle Spaces (www.themiddlespaces.com).
Dr. Oyola: Sometimes in taking a close look at something we like, we
come to learn that maybe we don’t like it as much as we thought we did. Or
perhaps, more accurately, we are able to better see the complexity and nuance
of our relationship to it. Take for instance Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale’s Spider-Man: Blue from 2002-03, which is
the focus of this review/overview. I first picked it up because it seemed right
up my alley—a re-telling/re-imagining of the beginning of the John Romita, Sr.
era of Amazing Spider-Man. I love
adaptations and re-tellings and I love Silver Age Spider-Man, so it seemed like
a no-brainer to get it. Plus, the art looked pretty amazing. However, after the
first two issues or so I decided it wasn’t so good after all. I can’t recall
exactly what it was that led me to that opinion, but I think I got the rest of
the series without even bothering to read it all. Instead, not too soon after I
put the whole series up on eBay. No one wanted to buy it! Stuck with it, I stored them with the rest of
my comics and on a whim reread the whole thing in one sitting a few years later
and decided my original estimation was wrong. I was glad I had failed to sell
them. I recently returned to them while doing research on a
post on my own blog on romance comics (and to some degree their influence
on superhero comics) and decided that they’d be a good subject of a Bronze Age Babies guest post—taking a
look at a relatively recent re-framing of a Silver Age romance whose
dissolution through death marks the beginning of the Bronze Age for many. The
thing is, as I said above, now having spent a lot more time examining the
series, I find myself returning to ambivalence. I am split. I love the art and
the visual storytelling, but when it comes to the writing, while I appreciate
the updated dialog and how some of the elements of the plot are handled,
overall its failures are less acceptable than in the original material seeing
as Loeb had 30+ intervening years to get it right.
Spider-Man: Blue is a six-issue mini-series that came out as part of the Marvel Knights imprint in 2002-03. Each issue is referred to as “Book One,” “Book Two,” and so on, and each one uses the name of a classic popular love song for a title: “My Funny Valentine,” “Let’s Fall in Love,” “Anything Goes,” “Autumn in New York,” “If I Had You” and “All of Me.” It was the second in a series of re-telling/re-imaginings of early days of Marvel heroes, which started with Daredevil: Yellow, and included Hulk: Grey and Captain America: White. I haven’t read the others, but the Daredevil one looks interesting. All of the series were written by Jeph Loeb (who has done a lot of uneven, and even highly criticized work for both Marvel and DC) and Tim Sale who does a great job emulating John Romita, Sr, with an occasional flourish that reminds me of Steve Ditko.
While Spider-Man: Blue
is ostensibly a re-imagining/re-telling of Amazing
Spider-Man #40 to #48 and #63 with a focus on the love triangle between
Peter Parker, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson which haunts Peter and MJ way
past Gwen’s death and into the days of their marriage, the series is really a
love letter to those early Lee/Romita, Sr. days, as there is plenty of
superhero action and focus on interaction of some of the supporting cast. Each
issue features a small scroll/banner that reads, “Dedicated to Stan Lee &
Steve Ditko & John Romita, Sr. Web-heads all!” As such, I went back and read the original
issues this series is based on, however, and just like every time I read Silver
and Bronze Age comics I was amazed at how much they used to squeeze into a
single issue back then (I miss those days), so there is a lot left out as well,
including references to the main plot of some of those intervening issues from
which some of the relationship stuff emerges, leading to Loeb and Sale
compressing the stories and having to find new ways for events from disparate
issues in their original telling to flow together.
The series is framed through the conceit of modern day more
adult Peter, now married to MJ, recording audio tapes every Valentine’s Day as
if he were talking to Gwen, re-telling her the story of their meeting and early
relationship now that he can admit his alter ego. Throughout the six issues,
Peter Parker narrates his own story through the blue text boxes that float in
the panels. The first issue opens with Spider-Man swinging his way to the top
of one of the towers of the Brooklyn Bridge to lay a flower from where Gwen
Stacy fell to her death—but wait, didn’t she fall of off the George Washington
Bridge? This is one of those things that continuity has gone back and forth
about since in Amazing Spider-Man
#122, the text calls it the GWB, but Gil Kane drew it as the Brooklyn Bridge. I
go back and forth on which I prefer. Regardless, the narration and story then
jumps to the events of ASM #40,
unlike the obsession with her death that has become common—from the
confrontation with the Jackal in the original clone saga to the attempt by the
Green Goblin much later after his return to throw Mary Jane off the Brooklyn
Bridge (Marvel Knights: Spider-Man
#12)—Spider-Man: Blue is about the
beginning of their relationship not the end. So while, “My Funny Valentine” may
start with an infamous confrontation with the Green Goblin, this is meant to
set up and contextualize the relationship with Harry Osborn, through which
Peter meets Gwen.
The re-telling of the warehouse scene with the Green Goblin
from ASM #40 sets the tone for the
liberties Loeb and Sale take with the source material. For example, the Goblin
himself never takes off his mask (or else has already put it back on), and the
way Peter frees himself and attacks the Goblin is totally different, though the
results are the same, including the arrival of the firemen and the passing off
of a now amnesiac Norman Osborn. There are other less apparent changes in how
the story unfolds in Book One, like Peter pays for his motorcycle in cash from
a biker looking dude in Spider-Man: Blue,
while in ASM #41 he has to call J.
Jonah Jameson to vouch for his bank loan. In addition, Loeb and Sale take
further liberty in making it seem like Peter and Gwen don’t have their moment
of romantic chemistry until both happen to be in the hospital visiting Norman Osborn,
and having Peter give her a ride on his new motorcycle, when in ASM, they already know each other, there
is no hospital scene. They talk when he runs into her with Harry and Flash, but
then he goes home to show the bike off to Aunt May and Anna Watson instead.
In scenes involving these young women, since the story as a
whole is meant to focus more on their relationships than on Spidey action
(though there is plenty of that, too), they are given a little more
intelligence and agency. For example, unlike in ASM #43, where Peter just makes an excuse about taking pictures of
the Rhino and leaves Mary Jane in the crowd, in Spider-Man: Blue Book Three—“Anything Goes”—she is the one who
comes up with a plan, flirting with a cop, to allow Peter to get past the
barricades in order to ostensibly take pictures (but really to tackle the
Lizard, not the Rhino—another of those changes). The great thing about this
version is that it works both if you are an old schooler who prefers a version
where Mary Jane did not know his identity, or someone like me who loves that it
was eventually revealed that she
knew he was Spider-Man all along. In my mind, I like that she is really
helping him to do his Spider-Man thing, but not letting on. Another
example—this one from Book Two—which retroactively echoes the Gwen Stacy of the
recent Spider-Man films, she is seen working in the lab at Empire University
(and where Miles Warren, later to become the Jackal, makes a cameo). Or did she
always major in biochemistry? I just don’t recall any scenes of her working in
a lab in the original Amazing Spider-Man
run, save for her first appearance where Harry and Flash use her as a
distraction in chem lab to play a trick on Peter—but that can hardly be
considered her “working” in the lab. When Spider-Man seeks out Curt Connors’
help in making special webbing to melt the Rhino’s suit, it is based on an idea
he originally gotten from something Peter and Gwen were developing together in
class. I like that Loeb and Sale make an effort to give the love interests some
depth and character, rather than just existing as eye candy and props in
Peter’s story.
Again, I am not arguing that his is better than what are to
me some classic issues of Amazing
Spider-Man. Instead, I see this series as supplemental. In fact, I’d say
that the original issues are better, but
it is nice to see a relatively contemporary comic paying respectful homage to
the Silver Age. Furthermore, despite there being places where the re-arranging
of the plot reveals weakness in the writing, Tim Sale’s art seems to get stronger as
the series develops. His art is especially showcased by two-page splashes on
the second and third page of each issue, but there are others scattered
throughout that are beautiful, full of movement and/or depth of emotion. The
first one is not so great, though the blue tone of the coloring (by Steve
Buccellato) is apt to the melancholy theme of the series’ framing, but they get
better and better. My favorite is the kitchen scene at Aunt May’s house in Book
Four, but Spidey taking on both Vultures (Adrian Toomes and Blackie Drago) in
Book Five is pretty friggin’ awesome, too. In addition, the art in the series
evokes the 1960s story beats, and those origins remain to me the quintessential
Spider-Man era.
Book Five—“If I Had You”—is essentially ASM #63, put before the events of ASM #47. In it Adrian Toomes escapes the
prison hospital with the help of Kraven the Hunter, who it turns out has been
stalking Spider-Man in order to complete the hit on our hero taken out by the
(now thought dead) Green Goblin (Kraven, drawn in shadow, also freed the Rhino
back in Book Two). When Kraven the Hunter explains that Toomes is not dying and
that Blackie poisoned him, he gives the old man the antidote and sends him
after Blackie as revenge for failing to kill Spider-Man in the previous issue
(the events of ASM #48). It is during
Spidey’s fight with both Vultures that Flash Thompson is depicted walking
around wondering why Peter Parker’s star seems on the rise while his is fading
is put into danger and Spider-Man has to save him. It is a great scene, and it
leads to Flash reconsidering what he is doing with his life when he realizes
that Spider-Man is probably no older than he is and is doing so much with his
life. He breaks the news to his friends afterwards: he is joining the army.
This is the change in the re-telling that I have mixed
feelings about. I really don’t like it, but at the same time, the scenes depicting
it are well-staged. What bugs me is making Flash Thompson volunteer for the
U.S. Army rather than be drafted, as happened in the original run. While I can
understand wanting to update the timeline in such a way that his enlistment is
not tied to conscription, and thus the Vietnam War, there is nothing else in Spider-Man: Blue that changes the feel
of the time period. Even Peter’s casual sexism isn’t necessarily connected to
the Sixties, since I am sure there were plenty of young men who didn’t talk to
women that way, just as there are plenty who still do (with whatever update to
that language). Loeb does a great job developing the sense of Peter and Flash’s
crossing social and economic trajectories, but I think Flash being drafted
really captures the change of fortune due to forces way beyond our control
(kind of like being bitten by a radioactive spider, but worse). Suddenly, part
of what makes Peter Parker an outsider is saving him from a fate that many
young men faced in the mid-to-late 60s. As Gwen says in ASM #43, “I don’t think they’d take Peter! He’s a scholarship
student -- at the very top of his class!” By making Flash being saved by
Spider-Man the impetus for enlistment it removes the parallel imposed
responsibility between the characters. Plus, in the context of the controversy
of the Vietnam Era (or really any war…uh, I mean “police action” since) the
idea of Flash “helping people” by joining the army is cast into doubt. Better
he should be something more arguably selfless, like a firefighter—but of course
that would have been too much a change and not line up with continuity (still,
if it led to him not ending up as “Agent Venom” wearing the black suit symbiote
for the government, as he is these days, it’d be worth it).
I have to say that even as the art and visual storytelling
in this series gets better and better the story work in terms of the writing
seems to lose steam as the threads start to fray. The weakness of the whole cologne
thing, for example, is highlighted by Peter’s narration explaining that Kraven
must have been so embarrassed by his mistake that he “never tried that stunt
again.” You’d think as sharp a hunter as Kraven would be able to figure out
that it must have been someone else at Flash’s party, especially since
Spider-Man showed up to save Harry and beat his butt so quickly. Furthermore,
if Kraven knows there is a connection between Norman Osborn and the Green
Goblin, what sense would it make that Spider-Man would be his son?
The series seems to have two distinct endings. First there
is Peter finally getting back home after fighting Kraven the Hunter and Gwen
Stacy finds him there. She is in a slinky black dress and what looks like a
white fur coat and kind of presents herself to him in a very sexy way. The
suggestion is that they consummate their relationship that night and then start
to date. This feels kind of abrupt and a little too contemporary a notion of
the development of a romantic relationship, which is weird since the whole
premise of the series is supposed to be an examination of the romance in that
era of Amazing Spider-Man, but
despite Peter calling this a “love story” in his narration and a couple of
scenes involving the love triangle of Peter/Gwen/MJ, this element feels lost in
the events of the battling Vultures and Kraven’s attack. The actual ending of Spider-Man: Blue is back in the
“present” of Peter Parker telling this story into the recorder as a way of
talking to the now dead Gwen, closing the frame that opens the series. It turns
out Mary Jane (still Peter’s wife at this time) was listening in, but rather
than express jealousy at Peter’s continuing obsession with his dead former
girlfriend, she tells him “To tell Gwen hello” for her—demonstrating her deep
understanding of his feelings and her own feelings for her dead friend and one
time competitor for Peter’s affections. There is a definite sense that Peter is
finally moving on, but that this final reflection on his love of Gwen was a
necessary step to do that.
In the end I have to rate Tim Sale’s art (complemented by
Steve Buccellato’s coloring) as the selling point for this series. There are
elements of the re-telling that are very strong, but overall I’d say it is
uneven—perhaps others would come to different conclusions. I am particularly
impressed by the composition of some singular panels that have a certain
quietude to them that evoke the depth of tension in Peter’s life. The splash
page kitchen scene is a great example, but so is a panel simply showing Aunt
May’s hand going into “the kitty” (literally a cat-shaped cookie jar) for the
money for Peter’s motorcycle.
One last note about Spider-Man:
Blue: I know there is a trade that collects all six issues, but I have the
original issues with high-quality heavy bond covers and interior pages. For
some reason Marvel chose to include ads in those original issues (which for a
high concept higher price point limited series seems weird) and in two cases
included back-up stories that are essentially BS. One of them features Jay
Leno (!) as a guest-star helping Spider-Man fight ninjas, but is part two of a
two-part story whose first part appears in some other title at some other time.
It makes no sense. It really takes away from the special feel of the issues.
Outstanding review, sir.. The series seems to extend the classic Silver charm, with some '40/50some yrs later' liberties both narrative and visuals. Looked like a great way to lure in us old-timers and it works well.
ReplyDeleteI've read a few titles like this, and this particular series looks much better (and done with far more love) that that Hank Pym retrospect (published around the same time..) where he becomes 'The Wasp' (duh-duh-DUHHHHHH...).
The tape recorder notion was a good tool to use for the narrative aspect. Like you, I'd probably want to get the issue-by-issue collection rather than the TPB.
Can't wait to hear others thoughts.
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ReplyDeleteColin --
ReplyDeleteThat's Kirk Alyn, who played Superman in the 1948 and 1950 movie serials.
Doug
Great in-depth review, Osvaldo! You raise some good points about the tweaks in story continuity, and the way events transpired. I have read the first three issues of this series but haven't picked up the final three yet. My take was that the artwork , as you say, was a big draw for the series. Sale does a nice job evoking Romita Sr.'s clean, smooth style. As for the variant story elements, they didn't really bother me too much, but I can't really say for certain not having read the conclusion.
ReplyDeleteDavid_b: if you enjoy retellings such as this, have you read the Sensational Spiderman Annual from several years ago? It was published in the middle of the Civil War arc, but the story was an evocative look back at the Peter/Gwen/MJ triangle. It referenced events from the mid 60's up through the Conway/Andru era, and the artwork paid homage to some classic panels. A fine book...
Tangentially, did any of our readers read and enjoy the two Earth's Mightiest Heroes mini-series?
ReplyDeleteI've read Miller and Romita Jr.'s DD: Man Without Fear. It was OK, but I really don't care for JRJR's art.
Tim Sale is pretty solid, as others above have commented.
Doug
I am going to be gone most of the day (I am down in FLA visiting with family), though I will be back this evening to respond to any comments. But, I wanted to encourage everyone to make sure you click on those two-page splash page spreads to get a good look at them.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words, so far.
Oops, I should have thanked Osvaldo for his hard work on that review, very interesting reading. And thanks to you, Doug - the only b/w Superman I know is George Reeves, but I wasn't sure if that was him or not which is why I asked :)
ReplyDeleteVery nice review, Osvaldo. You've really piqued my interest - I'd love to read this, despite its flaws.
ReplyDeleteNot too long ago, I read a sort of similar story Loeb and Sale did for DC, called Superman for All Seasons. Generally I liked it, although as you noted for this story, it had its weak points.
Regardless, I kind of respect what Loeb and Sale were trying to do with stories like these, i.e., evoking or using the nostalgia for those older stories and combining it was a new look at the characters and situations, and putting new wrinkles into them.
Also, I completely agree about Tim Sale's art - it is perfectly suited to the stories, and is absolutely gorgeous.
Osvaldo, this is really outstanding and I appreciate all the effort you put into it. Although I have never read this series, I'm also interested in re-imaginings, and this particular one brings up the issue of stories that are tied to a particular time frame. For me, that sixties period is so integral to those Spider-Man stories, even more so than say the early FF stuff, that it's hard to imagine them without all those references, like the cases you cite. Those comics had something to say about their times, even if it was done in a subtle way -perhaps that also being the best way to do so.
ReplyDeleteThe situation with Flash Thompson in those Lee/Romita books was a way to make commentary without hitting people over the head. A lot of young men were going off to war and emotions at home were swirling over it. Without that backdrop, Flash enlisting loses meaning. The need for the books to divest themselves of ties to the past, so the characters aren't all 60+ years old, unfortunately deprives them of context in some ways.
I think I understand why these stories exist. My take is that "modern" comics readers (which I suppose is not the same thing as readers of modern comics) may feel put-off by what they would consider the "archaic" art of the Silver Age. So "updating" classic stories with a more modern feel to them in terms of language, art style, and coloring perhaps makes them palatable to younger readers of today. It keeps the history alive, I guess.
ReplyDeleteBut for older readers who've known the source material for literally decades, I as one don't really find that these tales add much. And in some specific cases, notably seeing the Teen Titans of the Haney/Cardy era using cellphones for texting, somewhat puts me off. And I feel curmudgeonly when I think that way.
But as Osvaldo states on numerous occasions in his review, the art if really nice and very respectful of the subject matter. I believe I have three of these five issues (maybe four), so they bear a second look on my part.
Thanks for the write-up, Osvaldo!
Doug
Well done, Dr. Double O! I read/skimmed this collection in a big bookstore once. Overall I like the approach and the art, but Osvaldo's critique points up things that bug me, like the pointless revisionism. Why change the villain that Spidey fought? Why move the sequence of stories? That stuff starts out as a mild irritant, but then it grows, so that every subsequent annoyance gets magnified. Your description of the Kraven story makes it seem ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteOne of the things I enjoyed about Marvels is Busiek's efforts at keeping the stories in context and intact. Your perspective on Flash is great. Flash's story in this series suffers from the attempt at updating. I think MJ's story does as well. I don't like the idea that she has/had sussed out Peter's secret. One of the great things about MJ was that she was Peter's (girl) friend and had nothing to do with Spider-Man. She wasn't a hostage, or a snoop, or a motivation, or a source or any other hero-girlfriend trope.
Oh, the bridge thing! I had read the Marvel Tales reprint of Gwen's fate early on in my comic collecting career and it made a big impact. Years later when I drove through NYC for the first time I thought about that story on the whole drive across the George Washington Bridge! (I still think of it as the Gwen Stacey Bridge!)
Spectacular review Dr. O. I have never read these "Blue" issues, but even with the critique of the reworking of the story, you have piqued my interest.
ReplyDeleteI am glad you mentioned the coloring, because even from the samples that you supplied I think the color palette is really nice. I like the flat colors so much more than the three dimensional toning that many attempt today. It is so much clearer to me and it really shows off the line art. In this case, Sale's art in not at all muddy or cloudy. I have to agree with you that the kitchen scene with Peter and Aunt May is striking.
I don't ever recall Peter having a motorcycle; I had some of those early issues, but don't recall that at all. I was kind of surprised by the fact as I thought surely Aunt May would take the opposite approach and warn him of all of the dangers of a motor bike. At the very least he would be wearing a helmet, wouldn't he?
Thanks for sharing. Very enjoyable.
Great review, Osvaldo! I read this mini-series a few years ago and thought it was pretty good overall, but some of the continuity changes really bothered me; I don't mind small changes (or even a little updating), but when they start changing villains and plot points, it bugs me. I thought Busiek did a better job fitting things in on Untold Tales (though I didn't like how he kept shoehorning in "new" villains).
ReplyDeleteAs for Flash in Vietnam, I always thought ALL college students got deferments? Hence the cliche of the student who took just enough classes to stay in college, but not enough to graduate, just to beat the draft. And Flash was there on a sports scholarship, so you'd think he'd have a deferment too...unless his GPA wasn't high enough? I assume people on a sports scholarship would have to maintain a minimum GPA or something? I dunno, I'm Canadian, so I don't know how all that stuff works (or used to work) down in the States.
On another note, I think Osvaldo has given me an inspiration for another guest post...assuming Doug and Karen are interested, of course!
Mike Wilson
Mike, you just bring it on.
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking myself about a 100-Word Review of a Thor story I read over the weekend. It's one of the all-time classics, and has been reprinted several times. Getting my thoughts into 100 words could be a real challenge!
Your point, Mike, about Busiek introducing new villains into what should have been a "flashback" Spidey series reminds me of my main gripes with Byrne's X-Men: Hidden Years series. Additionally, introducing characters before they "could have been" introduced -- like Storm. Pfah...
Doug
Sorry to stray away from the topic at hand, but man, Doug, I just have to emphatically agree with you about Storm's appearance in Hidden Years - I recently re-read the entire series (gotta love those Panini digests!), and that was the one thing I found unforgivable...
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the kind words. As I said in my review, I think this one is worth keeping for the art alone. And I don't mind most of the changes, they don't change the original stories (would this series even make sense w/o the originals?). I like to think of it as Peter 20 years on misremembering the order of event and who was there. . .don't we all do that?
ReplyDeleteThat said, I do hate stuff like that that Doug and Edo pointed out - the thing is, if you write it well, it doesn't matter, but if the writing is weak. . .well, part of that weakness is not considering the viability of the idea.
Some time in late spring or early summer I am going to do an overview/review of Dan Slott's Spider-Man & Human Torch - which I absolutely love. I should probably do Untold Tales, too - since I am a huge fan and it is partially responsible for getting me back into comics.
I really really love that two vultures splash.
P.S. I am really surprised no one has yet expressed outrage over Flash Thompson becoming Venom. ;)
ReplyDeleteGreat review.
ReplyDeleteI hadn't seen this stuff before.
I like Tim Sale's work, which I only know from Batman. It seems to me, anyway, to have a retro feel to it.
Peter did have a motorcycle. If not for the sweater vest, he coulda been almost cool.
M.P.
Osvaldo- Untold Tales was one of the bright spots in 90's comics. Would love to see your overview. The first Untold Tales Annual is a big favorite story for me; might be fodder for a 100 word review...
ReplyDeleteAaaaah, Osvaldo! The Spider-Man/Human Torch mini was the "inspiration" I referred to earlier for another guest post here; I love that mini-series too! Oh well, you called it first, so it's yours...back to the old drawing board :)
ReplyDeleteMike Wilson
I have all 6 anyone interested?
DeleteMike, I haven't written it yet and it is going to be a while before I have time, but if you are willing to wait - I would be down to do a co-written one in the style of our illustrious hosts, Doug & Karen. . . a collaboration.
ReplyDeleteI think that collaboration would be fabulous. If we can help facilitate it in any way, let us know at our email address.
ReplyDeleteJust a comment on the kitchen scene about what makes it nice for me; it is the small realistic touches. Aunt May just has the sweater over her shoulders like a shawl. Peter's tie is thrown over his shoulder to avoid a mess. He sits comfortably with his left foot tilted on its side. The Frigidaire is the old style with the internal freezer. Those are the small nuances that make Sale's work great. I can see other artists blowing past those details.
ReplyDeleteMike and Osvaldo that Spider Man and Human Torch review would be a highlight.
Flash is Venom? I guess I knew that somehow. It is ridiculous though. Seems like a jumping of the shark. Cannot wait for Betty Brant to be the new Black Widow.
Ah another great post from our esteemed Dr. Oyola. I'm not generally a fan of 're-imagined' comics series that try to put a different spin on classic tales, but this one here looks like the exception. Tim Sale definitely looks like he was channeling Steve Ditko here. His uncluttered art style really works here.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Flash's reasons for joining the army, i.e. the issue of his enlisting versus being drafted, well, it seems to me that Loeb was trying to add some humanity to Flash in this series. In the classic Stan Lee/John Romita Snr. series Flash always came off as the class bully to Peter, the stereotypical bad guy who made life hell for our hero. Pretty one dimensional stuff character-wise. I know some people might say it's straying too much from the original story, but here I think it comes off beautifully.
I agree with Doug in having a preference for Romita Senior's art. Romita Junior's art somehow has never resonated with me. Gimme Gil Kane with his contorted limbs and up-nostril shots any day!
By the way, like my namesake Mike Wilson, I'm open to any collaborations for posts too. I think it'll add to the richness of our beloved BAB community. HB? Edo? David_B? Martinex1? Anyone? Just drop me a line on Twitter and away we'll go! (The name's included below in my handle)
- Mike 'web_dragon' from Trinidad & Tobago.
A collaboration would work for me, Osvaldo. Let me know when you're ready (Doug has my email address).
ReplyDeleteMike Wilson
I'd be open to a collaboration in theory, but I'm not sure how it would work out in practice. Even so, anyone who wants to should feel free to contact me - Karen and Doug have my e-mail address, and they have my permission to give it to any of the BAB regulars.
ReplyDeleteKaren and I have had success collaborating via email or by one of us starting a Word document with some thoughts and the other building off of that starting point. Exchanging an email or document 3-4 times usually gets it done, particularly if the roles of the writers are established up front. As you know, when we were doing our full-blown synopses, one of us was the "play-by-play" author and the other provided the "color commentary". We took turns each week in those roles.
ReplyDeleteDoug