Doug: As promised last week, here is the second of two recent submissions for your enjoyment from our pal Martinex1. You're gonna get your feet wet on this one...
Mike S.: Ahoy mates! I have
another $1.00 challenge for you and it concerns one of my favorite characters
in all of comicdom. We recently
discussed if we Bronze Age Babies are completest in our collecting; and it made
me recall that at a young age I set out on what I thought was an easy task…
gathering every appearance of this solo hero. That turned out to be impossible for a kid with meager means, because
this guy seemed to touch every corner of the universe.
He was a protagonist and an antagonist. He was Timely and a Marvel. He was an Invader, a Defender, and an
Avenger. He was the first mutant. He was a prince and a royal pain in the
butt. He loved and he lost. He started wars and tasted defeat. He is part environmentalist and part
belligerent neighbor. He had a flat top
and wings on his feet. He hassled the
Fantastic Four and teamed with dozens more. He was, of course, Namor the Savage Sub-Mariner.
Created in 1939, very much at the onset of powered heroes, it
is amazing to me how ever present Namor was in the Gold, Silver, and Bronze
Ages. Surely he was one of Marvel’s core
properties at the time and seemed to show up in almost every title, in house
ads and on merchandise, and even as one of the rotating Marvel Super-Heroes on
TV. I am sure we can all sing,
Stronger than a whale.
He can swim anywhere.
He can breathe underwater and go flying through the air.
The noble Sub-Mariner, prince of the deep.
So beware you deadly demons for Namor of Atlantis is the prince of the deep.
I liked his persistent frustration and impatience. He was different than other heroes and in my
eyes strangely sympathetic. I was struck
by his sense of responsibility for Atlantis, and how those duties really
weighed on him. Sure he could be a jerk
and was quick tempered and reactionary, but he was also lonely and tortured by
grief due to the tragic deaths of his wives Lady Dorma and Marrina.
There were classic stories and key moments involving Namor,
including but not limited to the original Serpent Crown Saga, the creation of
the Defenders (or should I say the Titans Three), and the tossing of Captain America’s icy encasement into the
sea.
I submit that the only thing holding Namor back in terms of
sales was his costume (or lack thereof). The Speedo look did not play well amongst my peers, but he got more
interest in the redesigned black winged outfit. Also, his attitude was obviously bleak and pessimistic; while I found
that interesting, others didn’t like him. I think that he was ahead of his time in terms of the broader and
conflicting elements of his disposition and that he really has a nuanced
personality. What say you? I hope I am
not all wet, and you have favorite Namor stories as well.
Here are the FOURTEEN selections from different eras and demonstrating
the Sub-Mariner’s ubiquitous impact on Marvel (with varying price points of
course). As always, have fun and dive
right in.
Sub-Mariner #15;
Cover Price $0.12. Written by Roy Thomas with art by John
Buscema. In his solo title, Namor was
given top notch creative talent, including but not limited to: Roy Thomas, John Buscema, Marie Severin, Gene
Colan, and Sal Buscema. Here Sub-Mariner
was a powerhouse who fought the likes of the Thing, Captain Marvel, Hercules, Thor,
and the Dragon Man. He was no slouch
and could pack a punch on land or in sea. There was a great series of covers in this run; including this knock-out
blow. He might have fine feathers on his
heels, but he is no pigeon!
Alpha Flight #15;
Cover Price $0.60. Cover, story, and
art by John Byrne. Subby battles
another marital crisis as Marrina succumbs to her dual nature. Cry me a river!
Amazing Spider-Man #211;
Cover Price $0.50. Written by Dennis O’Neil. Cover and art by John Romita Jr.
Generators on the East Coast cause all kinds of turmoil for the marine
monarch. Q: How do you solve a comic book engineering problem? A: Punch Spider-Man. Sea beds, Web Heads, and hot heads!
Avengers #282;
Cover Price $0.75. Written by Roger
Stern. Pencils and cover by John
Buscema. Inks by Tom Palmer. Following the classic Stern/Buscema siege
on the Avengers, the creative group went on to have the team face the pantheon
of Greek gods. Great storytelling and
all out action. Namor was on the team
for a relatively long time during this period. No more defendin’, it’s time for
avengin’!
Daredevil #7; Cover
Price $0.12. Written by Stan Lee. Art
and cover by Wally Wood. In a classic
tale, Namor needs a lawyer, DD gets a new red suit, and Krang riles up our
fishy friends. Don’t bring a billy club
to a surface world invasion!
Defenders #54;
Cover Price $0.35. Written by David
Anthony Kraft. Cover by George
Perez. Interior art by Michael Golden
and Bob McLeod (on the Defenders story). In the midst of a confrontation with the Presence and his capture of the
Red Guardian, a crisis occurs in Atlantis and the Defenders reunite with Namor
in classic undersea action. Grab your
oxygen; you’ll need it!
Fantastic Four #195;
Cover Price $0.35. Written by Marv
Wolfman. Cover by George Perez. Interior art by Keith Pollard. Namor has had a long history with the
Fantastic Four, going back all the way to their fourth issue when he reemerged
into the Silver Age. His on again off
again relationship with Sue continues here when she visits Namor’s Hollywood
movie studio for a role. Huh? Yes, not only is he an undersea ruler, but
he is a media mogul extraordinaire Water World or Titanic? You be the judge!
Invaders #4;
Cover Price $0.25. Written by Roy
Thomas. Cover by Jack Kirby. Interior art by Frank Robbins. “U-Man Must Be Stopped” World War II battles
from the depths of Atlantis; U better believe it action fans!
Iron Man #25;
Cover Price $0.15. Written by Archie Goodwin. Cover by Marie Severin. Interior
art by Johnny Craig. Iron Man and Namor
have a long history together. The 1968 one-shot Iron Man & Sub-Mariner predated their self-titled books by one
month. Subby sticks it to Stark
intermittently during his series; this time he’s sick of the toxic waste being
dumped in his beloved sea. We need Namor
to visit the Chicago River on St. Patrick’s Day!
Marvel Two-In- One #2;
Cover Price $0.20. Written by Steve
Gerber. Cover by John Romita. Interior art by Gil Kane. Hydrobase. Namorita. Dakkamites. Tuumar. Zeneg. Wundarr. Amphibians. And Gerber. Until Atlanteans are allowed to compete in the Summer Olympics, make
mine Marvel!
Namor, the
Sub-Mariner #3; Cover Price $1.00. Cover, story, and art by John Byrne. “Meeting of the Board” Okay, I know nobody is going to buy this one when
you only have a dollar to spend and there are so many cheap classics to choose
from. So take Abbie Hoffman’s advice, and
protest Namor being a corporate bigwig (who happens to ride on a mutated
Griffin through plate glass windows).
Take that, big business!
Sub-Mariner Comics (Golden
Age) #11; Cover Price $0.10. Cover
by Alex Schomburg. Interior art by Carl
Pfeufer. In the wartime Pacific, the
Sub-Mariner makes a point (and not with his triangular head). Isosceles Rex!
Super Villain Team-Up
#3; Cover Price $0.25. Written by Jim
Shooter. Cover by Ed Hannigan. Interior
pencils by George Evans with inks by Jack Abel. Betty Dean is dead! And Namor is
madder than a moray eel! If your name is Dr. Dorcas, Attuma, or Tiger Shark, I
would run (er… swim) fast! If your name
is Dr. Dorcas, I would consider changing your name (especially with Dr. Doom
hanging around)!
Tales to Astonish #100;
Cover Price $0.12. Written by Stan
Lee. Cover and art by Marie
Severin. The book becomes “Tales to
Demolish “when two of Marvel’s angriest battle in the briny deep. Is Namor strong enough to take on the
Hulk? You betcha! Yo Gamma Gamma!
So there you have it… decades of drenched drama! Let us know what you are buying and why. Is Namor neglected or has he outlived his
welcome? And if you want to bring up other underwater
ultras like Aquaman, Tempest, Stingray, Fathom, or even the Little Mermaid,
it’s all fair game.
Nice write-up on Subby, Martinex. You make some very good points.
ReplyDeleteAs to the topic at hand, it's becoming pretty obvious with these posts is that I always go for the cheapest books to get the most out of my buck, so I'm getting Daredevil #7, Iron Man #25, Sub-mariner Comics #11, Sub-mariner #15, Tales to Astonish #100 and, with only 39 cents left, Defenders #54.
Otherwise, I also tried to avoid stuff that I'd already read, and I had that issue of Spider-man (which I remember liking), read a borrowed copy of Marvel 2-in-1 (ditto), and have the Super-villain Team-up (in Essential format) and Avengers issues (the Assault on Olympus is indeed a fantastic story). I also had the Daredevil story in my long-lost Greatest Super-hero Battles book, but that is truly one of the most memorable issues of Daredevil ever so that and the low price made it my first pick. Otherwise, you can't go wrong with a Golden Age book because I think it had over 50 pages, and as for the others, it's always great to see John Buscema drawing Subby, as well as throw-downs with Iron Man and the Hulk, and I'm also curious about that issue of Defenders, given the art team (just a correction: according to the GCD, both Golden and Keith Giffen did the pencils on the Defenders story).
Amazing Spider-Man #211, Defenders #54 and Sub-Mariner #15 'cause they've got the best covers (that comes to 97 cents). He'll always be the Sub-Mareener to me but is Namor pronounced Nay-more or Nam (as in Vietnam) - ore ? I've always said Nay-more. And if he's the monarch of Atlantis why is he only "Prince" Namor rather than King Namor ?
ReplyDeleteExcellent post, Martinex! A nice, in-depth (pun intended) look at a cornerstone of the Marvel universe. You make reference to a number of Subby's appearances through the years, and his involvement in many pivotal events. This led me to ponder the influences of the other two initial Marvel luminaries: Captain America and the (original) Human Torch. Obviously, Cap has been almost ubiquitous, and the Torch has had numerous appearances (although certainly fewer than Subby and Cap). Now there's a potential question; which Marvel character has had the greatest influence over time on the historical Marvel pantheon?
ReplyDeleteOk, time to shop: like Edo, Daredevil 7 tops the list. Add Submariner 11 (how could I not?), Tales to Astonish 100, Defenders 54 and Invaders 4. Quite a bit for the buck. I only passed up Marvel 2-in=1 because I still have that one; an old favorite. Sure did like that blue winged costume...
Amazing Spider-Man #211 $0.50
ReplyDeleteDaredevil #7 $0.12
Sub-Mariner Comics #11 $0.10
Iron Man #25 $0.15
Sub-Mariner #15 $0.12
I can't wait to sell that ten-cent Golden Age Sub-Mariner for a couple grand. heh heh heh
Actually, Martinex, I probably will blow the whole dollar on that third issue of Namor. Its from a time when I wasn't really reading superhero comics so I don't know it, and Byrne's FF showed that he could have quite the way with old Marvel stuff.
ReplyDeleteYou've got me curious about that issue of Iron Man - Johnny Craig? that might be worth a look - but otherwise.... I like the work of Wally Wood and Marie Severin, but the stories never really did a lot for me.
And frankly, the less said about the Invaders or Supervillain Team Up the better (sorry, Mike)
-sean
I'm going with Avengers 282. It's a bit late in the game, but it's a Stern Avengers story I haven't read yet. I love the Defenders, but that issue is a bit of a mess. David Anthony Kraft had deadline problems, so #53 & 54 needed back-up tales to fill out the issue.
ReplyDeleteThe ASM issue was during O'Neil's lackluster (or is it "lacklustre"?) run on the title. I own it and it's not very good.
Colin Jones wrote:
"And if he's the monarch of Atlantis why is he only "Prince" Namor rather than King Namor?"
I wondered the same thing for years about Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. Why was he a Colonel for decades, he was in charge, why didn't he promote himself to general? Back to Namor, I'd guess it has something to do with Namor's mixed/illegitimate heritage (human father,Atlantean mother). Plus, he's often running off to hang out with the Defenders and later the Avengers. But that's just a theory, good question from Colin. Maybe "Prince Namor" sounds "better" for a superhero?
I'd have to go with Amazing Spider-Man, Daredevil and Defenders. I think I've read all of them at one time or another, and they're all pretty good. I actually have Alpha Flight #15...it's OK, though I never got into the whole "Marrina/Plodex" storyline.
ReplyDeleteMike Wilson
Great post Martinex! As to the buying, I'm with Edo - looking for bang for the buck. So my list is the same as his but swapping out Defenders #54 for FF #195. I'm a sucker for a Subby/Sue story.
ReplyDeleteAlso, can anyone tell me if I'm remembering something correctly? Did "Namor" come from "Roman" spelled backwards?
Tom
That is correct. The Sub-Mariner was called Namor because it is Roman spelled backward.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comments everybody.
ReplyDeleteColin I most commonly hear his name pronounced as Nay-more; that is how it was on the cartoon. Mike W. I really liked parts of the Plodex story and other parts dragged. I liked Marrina's origin and dilemma butt didn't really like the resolution.
I like how Namor was such a powerhouse in the past. Over the years his power level has not stayed on par with Thor and the Hulk and others that he used to spar with. If you haven't read the Serpent Crown story from his first series, it is an interesting story from that era. It was referenced a lot back in the early 70s as an epic, but has lost some luster over the years.
Imperius Rex!
ReplyDelete"Decades of drenched drama!" You could have been a bullpen stalwart, Martinex. I thoroughly enjoyed this post. I'm a big Namor fan. If I ever saw him on a cover I was happy to delve into that particular tale.
As you said, he's a nuanced character. Noble, arrogant, high-tempered- he could be quite annoying. But there's something about him, his innate goodness, his immense power, his confidence, that makes him very cool as well. He's one of Marvel's all-time greats.
I still remember when I first saw him: it was a little "Pocketbook" my Mom gave me that reprinted the first five FF issues. When the Torch shaved Namor's vagabond beard with his flame finger to reveal his true identity, I was blown away. Those comics worked well decades later, even when they were reprinted in a smaller size.
I'll take Sub-Mariner #15, Daredevil #7 and Iron Man #25. (LOVE IT when those two clash. They have excellent history, as you pointed out, Martinex) Maybe I'll have enough money left over for some candy.