Wednesday, March 7, 2012

BAB Book Review: Mail Order Mysteries


Doug: One of the books I received for Christmas was Mail Order Mysteries: Real Stuff from Old Comic Book Ads! I'd actually just seen the book on Amazon while messing around a few weeks prior. Well my wonderful wife, looking for one more thing to get me, was able to land this. So let's check it out.

Doug: I'll cut right to the chase -- if you want a high-quality piece of nostalgia that is guaranteed to bring a smile to your face, then this book needs to be on your shelf. Seriously -- I read it in small increments over a two-week span and never failed to have a wry smile or even a big dumb grin across my countenance while my nose was buried in these pages. This tome is a steal at the list price of $19.95; I'm sure my wife got it at a price reduction by buying from amazon.com. The cover is very sturdy (no dust jacket, but that doesn't detract from the package), and there's a very cool surprise found only when you carry the book into a darkened room -- who would have thought?? The pages are heavy stock with a matte finish. This is really nice, as it allows the ads to reproduce much like they would have appeared in old four-color newsprint magazines. The photos of the products don't lose anything without the glossy finish; if anything, I really think I like this better. We've lamented around here that sometimes comic book reprints look somewhat garish with today's shiny paper stock and bright colors -- this book's designers did us a favor and gave us a very natural-looking presentation.

Doug: Speaking of the book's designer, Kirk Demarais' (who doubled as the text author) work here is somewhat reminiscent of that of Chip Kidd (Mythology, featuring the art of Alex Ross, and the collaboration with Art Spiegelman on the Jack Cole biography). The mail-order toys and such are photographed with detail, and at times there are period photos that show Bronze Age kids actually playing with/using this stuff! Demarais' text is humorous, sometimes bittersweet, and he has a real ability to transport us back to our bedrooms when we were 6 or 7 years old, wondering just how cool the things in all of those comic book advertisements really were. Since I own several of the Marvel DVD-ROMs, I have entire histories of the advertisements featured in this book. I now consider this an invaluable reference when reading old comics, as Demarais has gotten to the bottom of all of those unknown wonders. Be sure to stick around for the Afterword by Jesse Thorn. It's really neat.


Doug: I'm obviously gushing positive about this book. Is there anything bad? If I have a complaint, it would be that there is no index. It's a relatively short book at around 160 pages, so I'm not going to waste a lot of time searching for things, but that would have been handy. The way around that, however, is the easily-navigated breakdown of these goodies into the following chapters/categories:
  1. Superpowers and Special Abilities
  2. War Zone
  3. House of Horrors
  4. High Finance
  5. Better Living Through Mail Order
  6. Top Secret
  7. Trickery
  8. Oddities
Doug: I've included a few images from the book. The Internet is rife with more full-page scans if you choose to research further. You should also visit Kirk Demarais' website at Secret Fun Spot. I was sure to show you details on the toy soldiers I myself was disappointed by, as well as Sea Monkeys (who never looked like they did in the ad, sadly...). And below -- who could forget Count Dante, Deadliest Man Alive! I smiled. But then I already told you that...

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Discuss: Lost in Space


Karen: Welcome to the first in a series of discussions that look at some of the science fiction shows we watched as kids. I've skipped biggies like Star Trek, Dr. Who, Twilight Zone, and Outer Limits, as we've already talked about these in the past. Feel free also to suggest topics for future discussions. We have a few lined up but we can always add more.

Karen:What do you think of Irwin Allen's 1960s TV show, Lost in Space? Has your opinion changed over the years?

Karen: I found the bright colors, explosions, special effects, and especially the robot very attractive as a kid (seeing it in reruns) but I knew it was not as good as Star Trek, and it was a bit of a guilty pleasure. It seems like the first season or maybe first few episodes started out as a serious SF show and then the stories seemed to become more kiddie-oriented. And of course you either love or hate Dr. Smith. But let's hear what you think.



Monday, March 5, 2012

Marvel Firsts: The Not-So-High Flying Falcon!

Captain America #117 (September 1969)
"The Coming of... the Falcon!"
Stan Lee-Gene Colan/Joe Sinnott

Doug: Today's the second installment in our "Firsts" series of posts, where we are reviewing 1st-appearance issues from some of Marvel Comics' Bronze Age stalwarts. Last week we checked out the Beast; after a month spent critiquing "Batman: Year One" (come back next Monday), we'll get after this again with the Cat and the Black Widow.

Doug: Captain America has certainly had a hall-of-fame-worthy cadre of artists over its history. From Kirby to Romita, Steranko to Colan, and on through Sal Buscema and John Byrne, the men who have drawn the Sentinel of Liberty have put their passion into his adventures. But I have to ask here -- was Gene Colan a good fit on the Cap magazine? I like Gene the Dean just fine on Iron Man and Daredevil, and his Tomb of Dracula is definitive. But I never warmed to his Batman, and I really don't overall care for his work on Captain America. For me, Colan's style seems ill-fit for some books. Don't misread me -- there is absolutely nothing wrong with the lay-outs, camera angles, or figurework in this issue. I just don't think of Colan when I think of my top CA artists.

Karen: I've stated before that I've never cared much for Colan's super-hero work, and Cap is probably my least favorite of those. Loved him on Tomb of Dracula and Dr. Strange, and he was not bad on Sub-Mariner either. But his style doesn't work for me with Cap. He seems best suited for books with a mystery or fantasy element.

Doug: Regrettably for you the reader, we pick this one up in the middle of a big Red Skull story, and doubly-regrettably we're going to leave you the same way. But in the middle -- today's post is all about the introduction of one Sam Wilson, aka the Falcon! The Red Skull is tormenting Captain America in a most peculiar way. This issue falls in the midst of the cosmic cube story where the Skull and Cap switch bodies! At the end of the previous issue, the Skull (again, in Cap's body) had sent Cap to a Caribbean island, the home of the Exiles. Who might they be, you ask? They are the greatest enemies of the Red Skull, sworn to kill him. Seems only natural that if the Skull is dropped right among them, that will spell doom for... Captain America! Are you following this?

Karen: Sort of a typical late-era Stan Lee plot.

Doug: "Cap" observes the exiles on some sort of a patrol. They're a mishmash of fascists and megalomaniacs, all apparently quite deadly. Cap's perched in a tree, when it suddenly gives way and he falls just in front of the scary parade. Now here's what I don't get, so I'm hoping this can be clarified for me. Doesn't the Red Skull have some version of the Super-Soldier Serum in his body? Runs in my mind that he does, just don't know if it was at this time. Because here's my deal -- Cap is able to do "Cap stuff", but his mind is in the Skull's body. How's that work? And how about the Red Skull (in Cap's body... sheesh) doing the typical super-villain deed of underestimating his enemy and walking away from his direct monitoring of the battle? Shades of Batman, 1966.




Karen: I'm not really sure about that, Doug. It seems to me the Skull was trained to be a killer but never had a Super-Soldier treatment. Although I do seem to recall a later retcon that said he did. We'll have to rely on our faithful BABsters to set the record straight! I will say that the Exiles are incredibly unimpressive. One guy fights with a scarf...I mean, this is the low ebb of Marvel creativity!

Doug: So Cap bests all these not-so-super baddies, but with a catch: there's a falcon that suddenly appears, and each time Cap's about to get whacked, the bird dive bombs the perps and saves the day. It happens twice, to Cap's major advantage. Ultimately he's able to get away from the Exiles. We cut then back to Manhattan, where the Skull has decided to take a stroll on the town, still dressed as our hero. He hails a cab, and moves through the city to one of the elite hotels in New York. He exits the cab and is told to forget about the fare. Entering the hotel, he is surrounded by fans and the media. Feeling full of himself, the Skull poses for pictures and even lies in repose while being interviewed. But when the questions turn toward information the Skull wouldn't know, he abruptly ends the talking. Alone again, the Skull takes out the cosmic cube and decides that before he takes over the world, he should destroy Captain America's reputation. We then see a 2-panel interlude at A.I.M., where MODOK plots deactivation of the cube barring its return to A.I.M.'s possession.

Karen: It's certainly bizarre to see Cap swaggering around. But of course it makes perfect sense for the Skull. I thought this sequence was very well rendered.

Doug: Back to the islands, and this is where things start to head south for me. We spy on a black man, smiling as he handles a falcon. We find out that it was this bird, under his direction, that foiled the bad guys' attempts to harm Cap (again, as the Skull). So what of Cap? We see him "discovering" that the Red Skull actually wears a mask. Removing it, Cap wonders if the Exiles have ever seen the Skull's face. Not knowing for certain, he decides that he needs a different disguise. So he kneels down and begins to knead some clay. That's right. He's going to make a mask. With only clay. And no mirror. And it's going to be flexible, with the texture of human skin. And it's not going to dry, crack, or slide off in the humidity of the Caribbean. Right. I need to just go with this.

Karen: You know, I don't know how many times, between this blog and the old Two Girls, A Guy, And Some Comics blog, that we have had to discuss masks. Stan and his collaborators apparently loved them! Characters in the old Marvels of the 60s were always managing to make masks so lifelike that they fooled everyone. But this takes the cake. Clay. Cap made a mask out of clay. Which just happens to match his fleshtone. And moves with his face. Oh boy.

Doug: No doubt. I needed to pack an extra supply of my suspension-of-disbelief for that one! Cap, in his new face, begins to move when he comes up on our aforementioned falconer. The falconer and Cap quickly put it together that 1) Cap was the guy in need of aid against the Exiles, and 2) the falcon in front of him was the bird that brought said aid. The falconer tells Cap that he is a "big city brother" and relates the tale of how he got from Harlem to Haiti. He had always loved birds, had raised pigeons in NYC, grew an interest in falcons, and then found Redwing on a vacation to Rio de Janeiro. Now, we don't yet know the guy's name, but he had to have some money to afford a vacation to Rio. This is a slow reveal here. Our new friend had also told Cap that he was trying to organize some of the local villagers to rise against the Exiles, but was having a hard time convincing them and was also without resources. Cap encouraged him. Our friend told that he got to the islands by answering an ad from the Exiles (he didn't know they were bad at the time) -- seems they wanted a hunting falcon. OK... When he discovered that things were going bad, he got out and had been harassing the do-badders ever since.

Karen: Yeah, there's some more stuff here that's hard to swallow. The Exiles put out an ad for a falconer...cheez. But I do like the way we get to know the as yet unnamed Sam Wilson. He comes across as a likeable guy with a strong sense of right and wrong. I do like the way Colan draws Sam.

Doug: Do you mean his form or manner? Because I've read accounts, knocks really, on certain artists who struggled with black or Native American features -- everyone just looked Caucasian and the colorist did the work! I'd agree with you if it's form you're talking about -- Colan's T-Challa was always solid in Colan-penciled issues of the Avengers and Daredevil as well.

Karen: I guess I mean that he looks heroic, but clearly is African American -if you saw this in black and white that would still be evident. I think some artists did (and do) struggle to depict blacks, Asians, Hispanics without making them look cartoony or worse, ugly stereotypes.

Doug: Cap told him that what he needed was a gimmick, even a costume to strike fear in the Exiles. Our guy scoffed, but soon we see a local textile worker crafting a green suit, ornamented in orange. As we see the Exiles on the move, we also get a 1/2-page splash introducing the Falcon!

Karen: I know it might not be very popular, but I actually like that garish orange and green suit! It was the first costume I saw the Falcon in so it has nostalgic value for me. I love the details, the little swirls on the glove and even the groovy necklace. And Sam was wearing one glove long before Michael Jackson!

Doug: So here's another set of questions about this story. Since it appears to me that Cap and the Skull have only changed minds, what I'm curious about is their accents. Did Cap, in the Skull's body, speak with a German accent? Because if you say "no", then I need to know why no one noticed in the NYC scene that the Skull in Cap's body was speaking with a German accent. Does that make sense? Also, and anyone who knows how this turns out is welcome to toss out some spoilers, isn't the Skull just going to use the cosmic cube to look in on all of this again and see what's going on?

Karen: That's a good point about accents. Your reasoning makes sense to me. But you're probably putting more thought into it than Stan did! As for the Skull, he's just like a Bond villain, turning his back on his adversary just when he's about to do him in. Why not make sure? But the Skull is finally beaten two issues later, and the scene in this issue with MODOK foreshadows how it will happen.

Doug: Overall, this story was OK. It's somewhat of a minor character introduction, almost as low-key as the last-panel appearance of Wolverine in Incredible Hulk #180. Perhaps a better issue to have profiled would have been Cap #118. This is a wild plot, and Stan's dialogue and Colan's pencils are fitting for it. I am hung up on the whole clay mask bit -- we've long lamented around here characters who get away with wearing latex, etc. masks. But you can't beat the heroism of Steve Rogers, no matter his lot in life. And the Falcon does seem like he will be an interesting character, although we are told very little about him, not even his real name, at this time.

Sunday, March 4, 2012

Zingers or Cupcakes?


Karen: Doug's post the other day about riding your bike to the store and getting comics and a treat made me think about this age old question: Hostess Cupcakes or Dolly Madison Zingers?

Karen: Two great snacks, essentially identical in composition, but differing primarily in shape. Both delicious chocolate cake with a creme filling and frosting on top, but cupcakes were round and Zingers were sort of rectangular. Mind you, we're only talking about the chocolate Zingers; if you want to discuss the raspberry or those awful yellow ones, we'll need another post.

Karen: Both suffered if left out on the rack too long. The frosting would become hard and brittle. Cupcakes had the stylish curlicue, while Zingers had these very orderly little rows sort of engraved in the top. Zingers had the extra cachet of having the Peanuts characters as spokesmen, although this obviously had nothing to do wit
h the taste. But somehow it did seem to add to the overall experience...

Karen: Although you could buy both in boxes or 8 or more, the individual sizes you could buy were two cupcakes in a plastic package, or three Zingers in shrink wrap. Actually, I think this is still true. So it felt like you got more with Zingers, but I don't know how they added up when you compared the weight. But as a kid, three seemed better than two. But most of the time I didn't care which I got -I loved 'em both!

Karen: OK, which did you -or do you still -prefer? Or was there another snack cake that you felt topped both of these?

Saturday, March 3, 2012

RIP Davy Jones

Karen: Another childhood icon is gone. I'm sure everyone has heard by now that former Monkee Davy Jones passed away from a heart attack at age 66 earlier this week. Like many, I watched the Monkees regularly and grew up singing their theme song and taking my Monkees lunch box to school. Despite their manufactured nature, they had a marvelous group of songwriters and many memorable tunes. Jones had a nice voice and always seemed like the happy go lucky guy, eminently likable. From what I've read, it seems like he was also a decent guy in real life.

Doug: I, too, watched the television show regularly. It was always farcical and silly. Like many of the music-based TV shows (i.e. The Partridge Family), the songs were the best part of the show. I also fondly recall the episode of The Brady Bunch when Marcia recruited Davy to sing at her prom. Fun stuff -- like Karen, fond memories.

Karen: Here's a clip of the Monkees performing "Valeri," my favorite song that had Davy on lead vocals.


Friday, March 2, 2012

Of Green Hair, Purple Pants, and Concentric Circles



Incredible Hulk
#150 (April 1972)

"Cry Hulk, Cry Havok!"
Archie Goodwin-Herb Trimpe/John Severin

Doug: When Karen and I reviewed the first appearance of the Beast this past Monday, I mentioned that I was reading from the X-Men Marvel Masterworks, volume 7. Included in that tome is Incredible Hulk #150, containing an appearance by Alex Summers and Lorna Dane, known in the longjohn world as Havok and Polaris. I appreciate that Marvel has taken care in the Masterworks and Essentials to sometimes add in books that are not in the main series the volume is dedicated to. Many owners of the dvd-roms have long lamented the exclusion of Giant-Size issues and crossovers from those otherwise fine collections.

Karen: I'm working from a genuine, 1972 copy! And yes, it has that "old comic" smell!

Doug: Ah, yes -- a little newsprint mustiness! I just get ink when I open one of these Masterworks... Well, if this is the Hulk's book, then you know we have to begin with the Jade Giant on the run from some army-types. And so, we find our hero hiding from soldiers led by none other than General "Thunderbolt" Ross. In the bowels of a Project Greenskin base, Hulk had battled the Inheritor the previous issue. Now he steps out into plain view and is immediately hit with nerve gas. The antagonists don gas masks, and Hulk is able to grab one before he passes out. Now stable, he fights his way to Ross. Grabbing his nemesis, the Hulk decides it would be better to let him go; using the most powerful legs on Earth (and the hardest head), Hulk jumps up and out of the base.

Karen: First off, Trimpe's Hulk never looked so good as when John Severin inked him. Secondly, this scene points out how much more powerful Hulk became over the years. I doubt that any writer in the last ten years would even imagine that gas could affect the Hulk. The Hulk is also much more man-sized here; bigger than a normal man but certainly not as huge as he would become.

Doug: I think you can chalk that up to modern creators without much of an appreciation of the history of our beloved characters -- today it's all for show, for effect.

Doug: Once free, Hulk rests on a large plateau where his mind drifts back to Jarella. He loved that pretty green maiden in a sub-atomic world and misses her now. As he muses the Air Force has located him and brings a little shock and awe his way. If you think back to the first Hulk film, the attack scene in the desert is very reminiscent of this scene. As Hulk scrambles against both air and ground assaults, the attack is suddenly squelched by an order for Ross to appear at a Congressional hearing in Washington. With the Hulk in their sites, the mission is abandoned.

Karen: The scene on the mesa was very beautiful. I also thought of the first Hulk film when reading the battle scene. But then the Hulk did spend a lot of the time in the desert fighting the army. I was a wee bit surprised that Ross backed off so readily.

Doug: We then look in on Glen Talbot and Betty Ross, speeding along in a jeep trailing the Hulk. Suddenly the Hulk takes off, bounding quickly across the sands. We then get a nice camera angle on a convertible being run down by a biker gang. Hulk lands right in the middle of the motorcycles, scattering bikes and riders everywhere. But he quickly realizes that the car is still moving and being hotly pursued. Hulk mutters to himself that he must save the girl driving; he must save Jarella, for you see -- our driver has green locks. Hulk makes another leap, but when he lands he finds motorcycles littering the landscape and the car open and unoccupied. He picks up one of the riders, but all the guy can say is that the girl pointed her hands at them and caused all the destruction.

Karen: The panel where the Hulk comes crashing down on the biker gang is just full of energy; I really like it. I think it is interesting that the Hulk never really seems out of control or furious -he's driven but still surprisingly calm.

Doug: We then see our damsel in distress up close, and long-time X-fans should have immediately recognized her as Lorna Dane, one-time object of Bobby Drake's infatuation and soon-to-be girl of one Alex Summers. Speaking of, as Lorna walks toward a house the last biker suddenly revs it up over a dune. He's picked right out of the air by a powerful blast -- but not from Lorna! It's Alex, aka Havok! Lorna runs to him and they greet each other. It's pretty obvious that our green-tressed lady was on her way to find Mr. Summers; he's happy to see her. But when he finds that she's come to recruit him back into the X-Men, he's less than thrilled.

Karen: Lorna, the mistress of magnetism, makes some remarks about how she feels so weak. "Each time I over-extend my magnetic powers, it's always the same!" She's got the same disease that the Scarlet Witch, Marvel Girl, and the Invisible Girl all had back in the 60s and early 70s - the inability to use her powers more than once in a fight scene! It's a bit maddening how all of these so-called heroines are pretty much useless. I doubt Magneto would have had any trouble with those bikers.

Doug: As they reflect on the tussle between Bobby and Alex over Lorna, Alex remarks that his power is still his worst enemy, and that he's a true danger to anyone around him. Enter the Hulk. Lorna, upset at Alex's stubbornness, fled crying just as ol' purple pants sets down. Alex, sensing this isn't headed in a positive direction, sprints into his hut and emerges seconds later in costume, the concentric circles that limit his atomic powers much more important than sartorial splendor. Hulk, in the meantime, has grabbed Lorna and is doing his best King Kong impression. But once at the top, he gets his first good look at the girl he now knows is not Jarella. Now believing he's been tricked, Hulk's anger is interrupted by the sound of an approaching jeep -- bearing Glen and Betty.

Karen: You gotta love how Alex runs into his little adobe shack to change into his costume -and then notes that while he did that, the Hulk took off with Lorna! I was thinking that the way Hulk was holding Lorna by the arms -surely they'd be pulverized?!

Doug: The Havok costume is one of my all-time favorites. I just love it. Neal Adams outdid himself on that one.

Doug: Everything is also interrupted by a blast from the ground. It would seem that Havok wants his girl let down gently. What he gets is about a half ton of gamma-irradiated rage jumping on him. And, this is where it gets weird. We know Havok hadn't had too many appearance prior to this, so perhaps his powers were undefined. But telekinetic-like prowess? Havok stops the Hulk's descent and keeps him aloft, lowering him ever so gently. Hulk's not really interested in rationalizing this mess, and strikes Havok. Grabbing his arm, Hulk gets a faceful of energy from Alex's other hand. Yeah, not a good idea. Hulk then uproots a huge chunk of the plateau atop which still sits Lorna. He squats with it over his head, looking a lot like Atlas. Alex knows that he's got to do something incredible (no pun intended) to right this. I said above this is weird -- Alex focuses his powers into the thinnest beam, aiming it right at Hulk's forehead. As the pain becomes acute, Havok coaxes the Hulk to put the rock down. He then envelopes Lorna in energy and lowers her to the ground.


Karen: Everything about this sequence was weird. The Hulk seems far stronger than I recall, but it's Havok's bizarre use of his powers that really throws me, especially levitating Lorna! How would that be any different from Cyclops pulling that stunt? Of course, she should be blown to bits. But maybe Archie Goodwin just didn't have a handle on his powers. Or -I guess he was trying to re-define them. But yeah, it seems odd. But the big panel with Hulk ripping the mountain up was pretty sweet!

Doug: As Lorna and Alex walk away, the Hulk changes back to Bruce Banner, resting under the very mountain he'd just moved. The jeep pulls up, and Betty runs to Bruce, much to the chagrin of Glen Talbot. Betty is moved to tears, however, when Bruce whispers into her ear and says, "Jarella... my love". You see, Glen knows all about that adventure, and he's now right there to pick up the pieces. As they say, to be continued!

Karen: Oh, that infamous love triangle! Or is it a quadrangle now? Well, it was a fun little romp, and a good looking book for sure.

Doug: This was a really good story, much better than some of the others in the Masterworks volume and certainly among the best Hulk stories I've seen in my very-limited Hulk-reading. John Severin's inks quite simply work miracles over Herb Trimpe's pencils. I remarked to Karen that while there is no doubt that the Hulk is Trimpe's, the rest of the book has Severin's fine stamp all over it. It's a really nice-looking story. Archie Goodwin's script is OK -- he has everyone's voice down pretty well. But as I said earlier, I'm just not sure about the abrupt change in Havok's powers. To the best of my knowledge, we've not seen Alex do any of this since. Does it make him more interesting? Well... yes. So maybe others should have run with it instead of always falling back on the "I'm too powerful, I'm dangerous" schtick. What sayest thou?

Thursday, March 1, 2012

Wait, Mr. Postman, Look and See...



Today we thought it would be fun to take a stroll down our comics-loving memory lane. We're looking at letter columns and the oft-creative titles to those necessary-reading pages. After loving on the artwork below, let us know what you think. Did you regularly read the letters pages? What did you think of the writers and editorial responses? Were there any letters that were memorable? Did you ever have a letter published?

By the way, you may notice that a) this is not an inclusive list, and b) we've left out some heavy hitters, like the Avengers and the Fantastic Four. We will be running a follow-up post with some of Marvel's big guns, taking an historical look at those letters pages. Stay tuned for that.


The Brave and the Bold 136 (September 1977)


Captain America 140 (August 1971)



The Cat 3 (April 1973)



Daredevil 116 (December 1974)



Defenders 45 (March 1977)



Detective Comics 476 (April 1978)


Hero for Hire 15 (November 1973)



Incredible Hulk 196 (February 1976)


Jungle Action 11 (September 1974)



Ka-Zar 3 (May 1974)



Marvel Team-Up 20 (April 1974)



Marvel Team-Up 69 (May 1978)



Marvel Two-In-One (February 1976)



Shogun Warriors 19 (August 1980)



Star Wars 99 (September 1985)



Sub-Mariner 67 (November 1973)



Superboy 199 (November 1973)



Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes 232 (October 1977)


Superman 267 (September 1973)



Teen Titans 48 (June 1977)


Thor 218 (December 1973)



What If? 4 (August 1977)


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