Monday, May 25, 2015

Guest Reviews - Arc of Triumph? The West Coast Avengers Limited Series

Doug: Welcome, friends, to another guest review from our pal Mike W. After his thoughts on the Rocket Raccoon mini, Mike thought he'd walk us through the West Coast Avengers limited series. It's another one of those mid-80s curiosities of which I've not partaken. Maybe Mike's going to talk me into pulling the trigger. To be honest, his review of Rocket's story made me feel somewhat justified in not having purchased that one. But today -- today's fare is all about some of my favorite characters. So sales pitch or no? We shall see.                                               

M. S. Wilson: In my Rocket Raccoon review I mentioned that I didn’t read a lot of the Marvel miniseries back in the 80s; there were plenty to choose from, but most of them featured characters I didn’t care about all that much. But one miniseries I did buy (and loved) was West Coast Avengers, written by Roger Stern. Stern was writing the original Avengers title at the time (though I wasn’t a regular reader) and the West Coast spinoff seemed to grow organically from the Avengers storyline. It’s been a while since I’ve read this miniseries, so I hope it holds up (Aw, who am I kidding? Of course it’ll hold up ... it’s Roger Stern!).

West Coast Avengers #1 (September 1984) 
“Avengers Assemble”
Roger Stern-Bob Hall/Brett Breeding

As I mentioned, I wasn’t a regular reader of Avengers at this point in my life, so why did I buy this miniseries? I think the cover of issue #1 had a lot to do with it. A great shot of Hawkeye surrounded by potential Avengers: Red Wolf, Iron Man, Puck, Shanna (who I always mistook for Clea for some reason), Rom, Doc Samson, Mockingbird, Cyclops, Wonder Man, Black Widow, Tigra, Quicksilver, Hercules, Shroud, Namor, and Ant-Man. An interesting talent pool; of course, four of these characters actually do end up joining, but some of the others might have made interesting Avengers too. Some of them (Puck, Rom) seem like strange choices too. Maybe the editor just told Bob Hall to toss a bunch of random characters on the cover.  Anyway, the story starts with Hawkeye giving the “Avengers Assemble” call (which is also the issue’s title) to an empty Avengers Compound. So far, he and his wife Mockingbird are the only ones there. We get some playful banter between the two, who are still basically newlyweds at this point. This is certainly different from the vitriol they’ll eventually be spewing at each other. They get a video call from Vision, who is chairman of the East Coast Avengers at this point. This was during the storyline when Vision was trying to take over the world’s computers (or ISAAC was, using Vision as its pawn), and the creation of the West Coast branch was part of that whole scheme. Hawkeye reminds Vision that he and Mockingbird are the only ones on the new team, but Vision says he’s already got some other potential members in mind. 

We cut to San Francisco, where private investigator Jessica Drew is chatting with Tigra about a recent case she helped on. I like this acknowledgement of their friendship, which was established in the final few issues of Spider Woman. It seems like Jessica is about to offer Tigra a steady job, when Lindsay McCabe comes in and tells Tigra there’s a phone call for her. Tigra takes the call, then decides to take a sudden trip to Los Angeles. Jessica is suspicious, but figures she can’t follow Tigra herself, so she makes a phone call of her own, to someone in the L.A. area. Obviously Tigra's phone call was from Vision, asking her to join the new Avengers team. It’s interesting that Vision knew exactly where to find her ... he’s apparently keeping tabs on potential recruits. Also, why didn’t he offer Jessica a spot on the team? I know she’d turned down membership before, but that was for the East Coast team; you’d think Vizh would’ve at least considered it ... or was Jessica de-powered at this time? I know the Avengers “brought her back from the dead” not long before this, but I can’t remember if she lost most of her powers. I know she had them back by the time she was in Madripoor, but maybe she doesn’t have them at this point.

Out in the Mojave Desert, we see Wonder Man doing stunt work for what seems to be a James Bond pastiche (the star is referred to as Sean, but he doesn’t look that much like Connery to me). Wonder Man gets a call from Vision and decides to head to L.A. as soon as possible. Up in Silicon Valley, Iron Man (James Rhodes) gets a call from Vision as well, telling him to get to L.A. as fast as he can. I like the continuity references Stern keeps putting in ... first, the stuff with Jessica and Tigra, and now we get some acknowledgement of the current situation in the Iron Man comics, with Rhodey wearing the armor and moving to California with Tony and the Erwins to start their own company. Iron Man gets to L.A. fast, just in time to meet Tigra getting out of an airport limo. (Did Vision arrange that? Earlier, it seemed like Tigra was straped for cash.) Tigra knows Iron Man (or thinks she does), but Rhodey’s never met her before. He’s soon impressed, though! This is one of the differences in Tigra’s portrayal by Roger Stern ... she’s shown as being sexy (almost inadvertently sometimes), but she’s not sexualized; she isn’t flirting like crazy or throwing herself at everyone in sight. She seems more like the 70s Tigra here than the later Englehart-written character. Hawkeye greets Iron Man and Tigra and invites them in for the tour. They’re watched by a mysterious dark-clad figure (no, it’s not Batman). 


Hawkeye and Mockingbird brief the new recruits (and we find out how Vizh got Tigra to head south so quickly ... he offered her a $1000 bribe, uh, I mean “stipend”). Tigra is unsure whether she wants to rejoin, which is another nice bit of continuity. She was an Avenger before (for about five issues) and quit because she didn’t think she belonged in the big leagues. It makes sense she’d still have doubts. The intruder alarm goes off, and as everyone splits up to search for the culprit, we learn Tigra isn’t the only one with doubts. Iron Man doesn’t like the way Hawkeye barks orders, and Hawkeye himself is unsure about his leadership role and can’t help comparing himself to Captain America. Mockingbird finds the intruder (who turns out to be Shroud) and they mix it up a bit. Shroud is surprised by Mockingbird’s skill and he also doesn’t seem to recognize Iron Man, which seems ridiculous to me; even if they hadn’t met before (and I think they might have, in Super-Villain Team Up), he should know Iron Man by sight (yeah, I know Shroud is blind, but you know what I mean). Tigra has met Shroud before and quickly realizes it’s him, but he finally figures out he’s broken into Avengers headquarters and decides to get out while he can. Unfortunately, Wonder Man shows up at that exact moment (plot convenience, you say? No, Stern actually made a point of mentioning travel times from various destinations, so Wondy showing up as this precise moment is perfectly logical!) and bounces Shroud around, cracking some of his ribs. If you’re unfamiliar with Shroud’s shtick, he’s a crimefighter who pretends to be a criminal so he can keep tabs on the real bad guys ... kind of like the Green Hornet, I guess. Tigra tells them Shroud is one of the good guys and Hawkeye impulsively offers him membership in the new Avengers branch (and mentions that he introduced himself to the original Avengers the same way, by breaking into their HQ). Shroud says no, since it would blow his cover as a notorious gang kingpin.  Wonder Man is understandably confused, so Hawkeye gets ready to explain things again, and that’s it for this issue. I was kind of disappointed that we didn’t see more of the characters from the front cover. Some of them would’ve been unconventional choices (to say the least), but they actually end up going with people who have already been Avengers at this point. The only really new member is Mockingbird (and Rhodey, but at this point everyone still thinks he’s the original Iron Man).

West Coast Avengers #2 (October 1984) 
“Blanking Out” 
Roger Stern-Bob Hall/Brett Breeding

We open with Hawkeye, Mockingbird, and Tigra training against Iron Man. You’d think it would be kind of a one-sided fight, but the underdogs show that teamwork can trump raw power and they actually bring Iron Man down. Tigra seems confident during the fight, but afterwards still wonders to herself if she’s cut out to be an Avenger. She’s not the only one worrying; Rhodey isn’t sure whether he should tell his new teammates that he’s not the original Iron Man, as they all assume him to be. We jump to a suburb where Wonder Man is packing to move to Avengers Compound. We get a needless show of his strength when he lifts up the back wall of his house to remove his belongings; I really don’t see how that’d be any faster or more convenient than using the door. I think Wondy’s been in Hollywood too long. Anyway, he runs out of nails, so he and his director friend head down to the hardware store and stumble across a bank robbery. The crook is a new character ... so new he doesn’t even have a name; he takes the name The Blank from a random comment by one of the bank patrons (and no, it wasn’t Betty Ross). Blank (fittingly, we never do learn his real name) is obviously new to the bank robbing game, and to the superhero game as well. He sems surprised at Wonder Man’s abilities (doesn’t anyone watch the news in L.A.?), but Wondy is surprised at Blank’s powers too. Apparently, Blank’s force field protects him from harm, but also makes him hard to hold onto. I’m not sure how that would work; he’s not intangible, since Wondy can grab him, and he’s not invisible. Plus, Blank can grab stuff (like the bank’s money), but nothing can hurt him. Anyway, Blank jumps out the window, turns off his force field, and blends in with the crowd. You’d think that would’ve occurred to Wonder Man, although I guess he couldn’t really start grabbing people at random. Blank takes his loot back to his apartment, and we see his origin. Some old guy that worked for Stark international invented the force field device, then stole it when Obadiah Stane took over and fired him. The old guy got hit by a car, so Blank took the device for himself. After Blank recharges the device, we see a ghostly figure appear above the charger, begging for more power (Maybe it's Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor!).

Wonder Man is mad at himself for letting a goof like Blank get away (he’s been having some of the same doubts as Tigra about being able to cut it in the big leagues again). The team splits up  and scours the city, and we get a quick tour of L.A.:  Tigra’s in Chinatown, Iron Man in Santa Monica, Hawkeye’s in Marina Del Rey, Mockingbird cruises the freeways, and Wondy’s Downtown. It’s nice to see a different setting than New York; I always appreciated some of the comics set in California (Spider Woman, Champions, Werewolf By Night). Unfortunately, L.A. is a bit big for five people to cover. Blank ends up in Inglewood, robbing an armored car. Things go wrong and he grabs what he can, jumping out of the moving vehicle. His force field protects him again, but Mockingbird shows up in her fancy car. Blank seems surprised again (“I’m being chased by a blonde in a sports car!” Welcome to L.A., Blank!) Hawkeye and Iron Man show up too, but Blank manages to distract them by blowing up a gas station (!); Iron Man smothers the fire with a dump truck full of sand from a nearby construction site, but Blank escapes again. Back at his place, he decides to leave town (which is a decsion I think more villains should make ... it makes sense to go where the superheroes aren’t). As Blank recharges his force field device, the ghostly form we saw before coalesces ... and it turns out to be Graviton!

West Coast Avengers #3 (November 1984) 
“Taking Care of Business” 
Roger Stern-Bob Hall/Brett Breeding

As this issue opens, it’s obvious there’s been a time jump; the West Coasters are shown cleaning up snow from “some unusual weather” that’s affected the whole world for the past week (This is a reference to the “Casket of Ancient Winters” storyline in Thor). None of the Avengers seem to know the cause of the freak weather, but they’re engaged in cleaning it up. Iron Man mentions that people in L.A. are taking the weird weather in stride and we see a woman in sunglasses, a scarf, and a bikini skiing down the street. Across town, some people are taking advantage of the slow police response time to rob a store (a Radio Shack by the looks of it ... yeah, this was set in the 80s all right). Hawkeye, Mockingbird, and Tigra stop the robbers (and in another 80s reference, Tigra appears to be wearing leg warmers ... or maybe they’re just woolen tights? I’ve seen girls wear those up here in Canada, but you’d think they’d be hard to find in L.A.). The snow disappears as quickly as it came, and Hawkeye proposes they all get together for a barbeque. Everyone is enthusiastic, but Tigra is worried about Wonder Man; he’s still moping about letting Blank get away (and we find out it’s been two weeks since the last issue), so Tigra asks Iron Man to talk to Wondy. He suggests she might have better luck, and lets her know (by removing one of his gloves) that he’s not Tony Stark. 

At a fancy mansion in the Santa Monica mountains, we catch up with Graviton. He used the strange weather to take over the mansion from another mobster, and we get a recap of what’s been happening with Graviton since Thor put him in suspended animation in Thor #324. Apparently, Grav’s consciousness was awoken by a strange energy (which we’re told was the Beyonder) and he used Blank’s recharging machine to make his way back to Earth. Graviton demonstrates his powers (freaking Blank out a bit) and says he’s not worried about the Avengers. Back at the Compound, we see the conversation between Wonder Man and Tigra. He recaps his origin and tells how he ended up working as a stuntman; apparently the Avengers’ appearance on David Letterman (in Avengers #239) brought Wondy to the notice of the Hollywood bigwigs. Working as a stuntman gave him his confidence back, so he jumped at the chance to rejoin the Avengers, but after letting Blank escape he’s started wondering if he made a mistake.Tigra then recounts some of her story: she tells him about the Cat People and how she’s bounced from one thing to another in her life, never quite feeling in control, which is why she’s also having doubts about being an Avenger. Again, I really like this version of Tigra; wanting to be on the team, but afraid to let everyone down. Much better than her later “overconfident/slutty” persona. 

Tigra and Wondy decide to prove themselves by finding Blank. They go to Shroud's club for information, reasoning that since he's posing as a gangster, he'll have info on the "competition". They find Shroud's place trashed and are told that it was done by the Galeno gang ... except Galeno isn't the one in charge anymore. Shroud has to retaliate, to keep up appearances, and Wondy offers to go along as his "muscle". Tigra reluctantly agrees. Shroud and Wonder Man show up at Galeno's mansion (with Wondy wearing a really stupid-looking wig as a disguise; seriously, he looks like Harpo Marx in that thing), and find out the new gang leader is The Blank. Blank demonstrates some powers he really shouldn't have, like making Wonder Man float in mid-air, and making Shroud's feet so heavy that he can't move. Tigra jumps Blank and he yells for help. The real boss, Graviton, appears and Wonder Man warns the others to stay back as he attacks Graviton himself. Graviton uses a "localized gravity field" to send Wondy crashing through the floorboards. It's nice that they acknowledge what a tough opponent Graviton was when he first fought the Avengers; it's been a while since I read those issues, but I remember Graviton basically held off ten or so Avengers and almost killed them. He's no lightweight (so to speak). Graviton sets everything in the room spinning. Shroud tries to use his "living darkness" to blind Graviton, but the villain just pins his foes to the wall, disrupting Shroud's control. Wonder Man climbs back up through the floor (still under the effects of localized gravity), but Graviton renders him helpless by making him float in the air. Grav then sends Tigra, Shroud, and Blank (whose incessant whining he's finally gotten tired of ... I'm not sure what took him so long) crashing through the window and out into the Pacific Ocean. At the Compound, the others are preparing for the barbeque (and Rhodey's wondering how he'll eat with his helmet on), but Mockingbird is worried about Tigra and Wonder Man. Hawkeye figures there isn't much Wondy can't handle, but we see how wrong he is; back at Graviton's mansion, he shows off his newest "decoration" to a couple of girls (one of whom looks terrified, while the other seems strangely ... turned on?). He's used his gravity powers to pin Wonder Man at the bottom of the swimming pool until his lungs filled with water.

West Coast Avengers #4 (December 1984) 
Roger Stern-Bob Hall/Brett Breeding/Peter Berardi

This issue starts with Tigra surfacing in the Pacific, clutching an unconscious Shroud in her arms. It's night-time now, where it seemed to be daylight last issue, so I'm not sure how long they were meant to be down there. Tigra uses her emergency beacon to call for help; I can't help wondering where she keeps that ... her costume doesn't leave a lot of room for hiding places. Iron Man picks them up, and back at the Compound we learn that Shroud will be fine (although he's never mentioned again after this) and that Iron Man couldn't find any trace of Blank. Shellhead is champing at the bit to go after Graviton, but Hawkeye reminds him how tough Graviton is, mentioning that Iron Man should know that since he fought Grav the first time around. Rhodey realizes he has to come clean and takes off his helmet. The others are surprised, and Hawkeye is annoyed to find out he's been working with an "amateur". Rhodey informs him that he was the Iron Man who saved everyone during the Secret Wars after Molecule Man dropped a mountain on them. Rhodey is stiil fired up to confront Graviton, and Hawkeye realizes that he's seen this all before, from the other side, and wonders how Captain America ever put up with him all those years. Hawkeye decides they will go after Graviton, but they need a plan.

Later at Graviton's mansion, there's a party in full swing and we see a couple of women (who I think are supposed to be high-class hookers) talking about how gross Graviton is. The bartender commiserates with them as she pours some more drinks. The bartender is Mockingbird in disguise, which makes sense; with her SHIELD background, infiltrating a party would be a cakewalk. There's a knock at the door and Madame Masque shows up, with a gun-toting goon. The goon is Hawkeye (in another weird-looking disguise) and Masque is Tigra, using her amulet (which she demonstrated last issue .. Chekhov's amulet, I guess) to hide her furriness. Mockingbird pours Graviton some more champagne as one of his henchmen fills him in on Madame Masque. Grav seems impressed (and Tigra does look good in that dress!), so he shows her around. When she mentions the Avengers, Graviton shows her Wonder Man at the bottom of the pool, which freaks Hawkeye out. They cover for it before Graviton gets suspicious, and then Iron Man shows up, blasting at Grav with his repulsors. Hawkeye uses the confusion to grab some cover, as Graviton uses his powers to bounce Iron Man around. At the bottom of the pool, Wonder Man starts to move (come on, you didn't really think he was dead, did you?). Bobbi changes into her Mockingbird costume, and joins the fight. Graviton pounds Iron Man, but begins to feel light-headed. We learn that Bobbi spiked the booze, so most of Graviton's henchmen (and other guests) are conked out, but Grav himself must have "the constitution of a moose", because he's still on his feet. A skycycle shows up with "Hawkeye" on it (actually a Hawkeye dummy ... I guess they just had one lying around at the Compound?) and when Graviton blasts it, the real Hawkeye retrieves his gear. As Graviton and Iron Man fight, Wonder Man climbs out of the pool, pulling half of it down in the process; he surprises Graviton enough to get a punch in. Iron Man grabs Madame Masque and flies off with her. Graviton quickly follows, but before Wonder Man can chase them, Hawkeye tells him everything is going according to plan.

Graviton catches up to Iron Man and his "captive" a few miles north, near a power substation. Iron Man has hooked himself into the power grid so he can blast away at Graviton with everything the station can put out. Unfortunately, the cables connecting him to the station aren't as sturdy as his armor, so just as he blasts Graviton with a huge burst of power, the cables melt, causing feedback that knocks the armor offline temporarily. Tigra chooses this moment to drop her disguise and decks Graviton; Wonder Man shows up and he and Iron Man attack again. Graviton realizes he's been drugged, but is still confident that he can beat a mere five Avengers. Hawkeye hits him with some gas arrows, and Graviton makes the gas so heavy that it sinks to the ground. Graviton is still bragging about how tough he is when he keels over. Later, we see Graviton being hauled away (I'm not sure how they'll keep him incarcerated ... drug him constantly?), and Hawkeye tells a reporter that they have another important mission to take care of.

That mission turns out to be the long-delayed barbeque back at the Compound. Everyone has their masks off and is chowing down. Hawkeye plays a congratulatory message from Vision and Wonder Man reminds everyone that he no longer needs to breathe, which is why he survived being trapped at the bottom of the pool. Both Wondy and Tigra seem to have gotten past their self-doubts about being Avengers (and it seems like Stern may have been setting up a romance between the two of them). One of the things I liked about this miniseries is how Wondy and Tigra had their doubts (logical, considering their backstories), but Rhodey always seemed 100% down with being an Avenger. He wasn't arrogant about it, but he seemed confident enough to know he could cut it as an Avenger, unlike in the IronMan comics of the time, where he always seemed to have an inferiority complex. Anyway, Hawkeye ends the issue (and the miniseries) with "Once an Avenger, always an Avenger!" and we're told that the West Coasters will be appearing in Avengers #250 next (where I think they team up with the East Coast branch to  fight Maelstrom).

I really liked this miniseries, maybe more now than I did back then, since I can appreciate more of the background and surrounding events now. Bob Hall's art is great (he would've been good on the ongoing series), and I love how Stern uses all kinds of character  history and brings a bunch of other storylines into the series (Tony's booze problems, Secret Wars, the Casket of Ancient Winters, Spider Woman, etc.) I also like the way Stern writes these characters: Wondy and Tigra's doubts, Hawkeye having to be the calm leader instead of the hothead. Like I said before, I wish we'd gotten to see more of the characters from the cover of issue #1 (some of whom would've made great Avengers). I'm not sure about Shroud as an Avenger, but he might have made an interesting recurring character. And there were others (like Jessica Drew or Bill Foster) who could've been used too. I know Stern did have Foster lined up as the WCA's resident scientist, but once Hank Pym was brought in, Foster seemed to disappear pretty quick. I can't help wondering (one of those real life "What If?" scenarios) what it would've been like if Stern had written the regular West Coast Avengers series instead of Steve Englehart? Nothing against Englehart (I generally like his writing ... his Captain America run is classic), but some of his characterizations are a bit off, Tigra especially. He seemed to take all the nuance out of her. I liked some of his ideas (the way he wrote Firebird was interesting), but some of his choices left me a bit cold. I think if Stern had written both series at the same time, he could have coordinated the titles so they felt like two parts of a whole, instead of "Avengers" and "Avengers Junior", like we basically ended up with. Lots of people joke now about the West Coasters being lame knock-offs of the "real" Avengers, but Stern obviously meant them to be taken seriously ... hence their defeating Graviton with half as many Avengers as it took the first time. And maybe if Stern was writing both titles, he eventually would've worked some other characters into the book. Ah well, we'll never know what might have been!


Anonymous said...

Great write-up, Mike W.! I read this series, as well as the first 24 issues of the ongoing, and I remember very little of either. I do remember the character bits better than any of the action.

Roger Stern didn't intend for the West Coast team to have their own series. IIRC, he was going to switch between the two teams depending on the storyline. Mark Grunewald or someone above him nixed the idea, however, and Stern ended up not doing several planned WCA story lines. If any of my above recollections are wrong, feel free to correct me.

Anyway, I might dig this series out of the long boxes and give it another look. I wonder if more of it will stick if I read it again.

- Mike Loughlin

Edo Bosnar said...

Yep, Stern's just a great writer, ain't he? One of my personal favorites.
Anyway, great job (yet again) on this comprehensive review, Mike. I remember when this came out, but I never got it, as it was at about that time that I started to seriously cut down on my comics buying. Now, of course, I regret that decision, as no matter what is said about the WCA ongoing series, the initial mini seems universally loved.

One more thing: Tigra/Greer Nelson. If written right, she's an awesome character, and I absolutely hated the way she was treated by certain writers, Jim Shooter first and foremost. As far as I know, he was the first to write her as this flaky, flirty and even cowardly character. It's nice to see that Stern essentially ignored that, and that later writers unfortunately seemed to prefer Shooter's characterization. (I really hated the way Byrne portrayed her during his run on WCA).

Edo Bosnar said...

By the way, Mike L., I never knew that Stern wanted to have the west coast team appear in the main title occasionally instead of them having their own series. That's actually a pretty good idea.

Redartz said...

Great, very in-depth review Mike! Some nice artwork there, and Roger Stern is always a good storyteller. Like Edo, I missed this series as I'd mostly abandoned comics at that point. This series, and the regular title it spawned, are often seen in 'cheapie' boxes at flea markets. From your description, Mike, this mini would be worth picking up...

As for Tigra, never a huge fan. I preferred Hellcat (who ended up in Defenders, of course) and She-Hulk (a great part of that great Byrne FF run). Nonetheless, Tigra deserved better characterization than she often received.

Martinex1 said...

I enjoyed this review Mike W. It has been so long since I read these stories that it really brought back some memories. At the time I was excited to finally see a new Avengers book coming out, but I do recall the first two issues being disappointing, for reasons you allude to. I was hoping the first issue was going to introduce some oddballs or unexpected characters into the team's ranks, like ROM or the Shroud but was let down. ( I have to admit that until today I did not know that it was Shanna on the cover; I always thought it was the recently discussed Thundra but was never quite and learn). Regarding the second issue, I was hoping for a big time Avengers threat but got the Blank?!? Seriously, I almost dropped the title there but was so glad to see Graviton make a comeback.

Like others, I think Tigra is woefully mishandled ( not here but as a character). In my opinion she should be a higher tier character; the stuff Shooter did with her as being a coward and some of the Englehart tales with the Cat People really hindered her I think.

Stern as always is extremely great on the Avengers, and Bob Hall doesn't get enough credit. The art, especially in this era looks great.

Regarding the Shroud not recognizing Iron Man, I thought it was that he could tell a difference in the voice, but that makes no sense to me now. Are Tony's and Rhodey's voices modulated through the armor? I guess so.

By the way, can anybody explain to me Tigra's tail or lack thereof? I thought she had a tail but cannot for the life of me recall if it was always there, sometimes there, came later or what.

Thanks again Mike. I will have to dig these and other WCA issues out.

Anonymous said...

I never warmed up to Tigray, probably due to how poorly she's been written. For what it's worth, I thought Christos Gage did a good job trying to fix the character in Avengers Academy.

By the way, here's a link to the Roger Stern interview in which he discussed WCA, among other works:

- Mike Loughlin

pfgavigan said...


Another Marvel mini-series that I read, enjoyed, and pretty much forgot about. Not that I think that diminishes it, it was all that I really wanted from a comic at that time, a fun read.

I just want to make one observation regarding the 'flighty, flirty, somewhat cowardly' version that Shooter wrote. While I can understand that it can be grating, it was also the first attempt to actually give Tigra a character beyond the 'poor, poor pitiable me' chorus that she, Ben Grimm and a host of others were doing at the time.

Besides, just because you have a traumatic origin and get some semi-cool powers out of it doesn't mean that you're cut out for the super hero trade. One of the problems with Tigra's previous incarnation as The Cat is that no writer ever invested her with much of a reason for being a hero. There were some elements of feminism expressed, but it seemed more like set decoration than an underlying dramatic theme.

Rambling a bit there.


Anonymous said...

Thanks for the comments, everybody. To address some specifics:

@Mike Loughlin: That Stern interview was interesting; I would've liked to see him do both series, or do it as he said, one team with rotating members (kinda like the X-Men's Blue and Gold teams). I figure Stern would've written Tigra differently, plus he seemed to have a good handle on Rhodey, so maybe he could've stayed with the West Coasters and Tony moved back East (though that might've screwed up Denny O'Neil's plans in Iron Man). And Stern's idea of both branches being equal is much better than the "second-stringer" inferiority complex that Englehart seemed to give the West Coasters.

@Martinex1: I don't know what happened to Tigra's tail. I always assumed Iron Man's armor made his voice sound "electronic", although Rhodey's syntax tended to be different, so you'd think some people might've noticed that. As for that being Shanna on the cover, I'm just going by the "cover characters" credit at GrandComicDatabase; otherwise I don't think it would've occured to me that it was Shanna. As I said, I used to think it was Clea (and I've heard some people say it was Venus (!), but I like your Thundra idea. Thundra as an Avenger would've been She-Hulk without the social graces! Another "It might have been..." moment, I guess.

Mike Wilson

Doug said...

You know, thinking about Tigra and her tail, that did cross my mind back when it appeared that she and ol' Hank Pym were a pair. Of course, other taboos then crossed my mind.

Let's stop talking about things that run through my mind...


Edo Bosnar said...

Tigra initially didn't have a tail - I think it appeared (grew?) some time during her stint in the West Coast Avengers. I just know that when I started reading the title - briefly - after John Byrne took it over, she had a tail, and I recall it puzzled me at the time (and I still am, as I've never gone back and read any of the WCA issues before that).

And PFG, re: 'poor, poor pitiable me.' When was Tigra like that? In her appearances in the late '70s, prior to joining the Avengers, I recall that she was generally portrayed as a sort of super-confident bad-a**, without a hint of self-pity. That's what made Shooter's characterization so jarring.

pfgavigan said...


Edo, Tigra was in a couple of black and white books, horror story type things where her purpose was to dispose of whatever rat-like creature was doing the dirty work.

These thing were written by Claremont so of course there was angst.

At least she avoided the soft porn bestiality that Shanna the She Devil was saddled with.


Anonymous said...

So Doug, I can't help but be curious...what say ye? Has this review made you want to read this mini, yea or nay? :)

Mike Wilson

Doug said...

Yes, Mike - I would seek out the Marvel Premiere Hardcover for this mini. As has been said, Roger Stern is top notch (and this seems so much better than what Steve Englehart would do with the team in the ongoing). Additionally, the art here is really solid, especially for the mid-80s. It, too, is way above what we'd get in the ongoing series.

So, yes -- sold!


Anonymous said...

Awesome review Mike W! The West Coast/East Coast or whichever cardinal point iteration of the Avengers was never my bag, but you really opened my eyes here Mike. Of course, the good quality of these issues is due to the excellent scripting by Roger Stern and top notch artwork by the Hall/Breeding team. Can't believe I missed out on some top notch stories!

Tigra was one of those characters which were underutilized by many writers in my opinion. I'm glad to see the renewed interest in female characters like Captain Marvel, but Tigra still falls into the category of 'a second tier character who could have been greater had she been written better'.

Redartz, if hidden gems like these are in the cheapie bins at flea markets, I for one will be diving headfirst into those bins (if they can find a bin large enough for me!).

- Mike 'trashcan' from Trinidad & Tobago.

Edo Bosnar said...

I keep forgetting to add: I really, really like the art here. Hall and Breeding really work well together - it's too bad they weren't the regular art team when WCA became an ongoing series.

Dr. Oyola said...

I had a couple of these (maybe #1 and #2?) but between distribution troubles at that time where I got my comics and no real desire to make an effort to seek them out, I never to the rest.

Question: Did the WCA series just start with #5 or did it start over with #1 as an on-going series?

Anonymous said...

@Doug: Ah, another convert!

@Dr. Oyola: The ongoing WCA series started over with #1; the first two issues crossed over with the first two issues of the Vision & Scarlet Witch maxi-series, also written by Englehart with art by (I think) Rich Howell.

I agree with everyone about Bob Hall...he was always solid but underappreciated; I would've liked to see him do a long run on an ongoing series.

Thanks for all the comments, people!

Mike Wilson

david_b said...

Great review.., yes I found the WCA Limited a definite high-spot to '80s Marvel, in the couple of years I did actually collect.

The Hall art was near-perfect for the mood of the series, which I hoped had retained a looser, light-hearted LA-type team especially with the likes of Clint and Wondy. Style-wise, I found it a curious revisit to the 'Kooky Quartet' days, trying such a 'comparatively lesser' team out for size, hence the limited series being the perfect try-out venue.

I felt the story moved along quite well, sort of your breezy 'standard art' nothing too spectacular but solid and liking it overall better than Clint's try-out series.

When I first found the regular series premiering on the comic stands, Milgrom had taken over as artist. It started out optimistic, I was actually excited as to the prospects, so I went to my LCS to grab and enjoy this earlier limited series.

Obviously the regular series ended up plagued by several hang-ups, such as monotonous villains (AGAIN with Master Pandemonium..!?!), overly-dull cat-people revisits, the wild west/time travel (shades of 'Back to the Future'..?), so as the plotlines all seemed more and more tired, add some lousy twists (Hank Pym's suicide attempt.., Mockingbird as murderer, Vish disassembled, uggh) and the terrible art. I finally said 'so long' after the first dozen issues, later stepping back for the Byrne issues for a spell.

If only this Hall/Breeding team had stayed on, I certainly would have.

Again, great review..!!

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