Doug: Today we want your opinion on the recent phenomenon of the Hulk being branded in the Avengers -- films, cartoons, toys (I can't comment on the comics, sadly). What's your opinion that today's consumer is perhaps under the false assumption that the Hulk has always been an Avenger? And, do you think that in our experience, the Hulk should have been in the Avengers all along?
Sunday, March 23, 2014
Discuss: Retrofitting the Hulk, Plus More Alex Ross Spider-Man
Doug: Today we want your opinion on the recent phenomenon of the Hulk being branded in the Avengers -- films, cartoons, toys (I can't comment on the comics, sadly). What's your opinion that today's consumer is perhaps under the false assumption that the Hulk has always been an Avenger? And, do you think that in our experience, the Hulk should have been in the Avengers all along?
Saturday, March 22, 2014
Are you ready for... the Hulkbuster?? How about William Shatner?
Karen: Last Tuesday (March 18) ABC aired a special called "Marvel Studios: Assembling A Universe" which looked at past Marvel films and provided a few glimpses at upcoming productions. This included some concept art for the second Avengers film, "Avengers: Age of Ultron." Among the images displayed was one sure to get every Marvel geek excited: it features the green goliath, the Hulk, squaring off against the Hulkbuster! You can see it below:
Karen: Now who knows what the story behind this is. Does Hulk go bananas and Iron Man has to bring him down? Or is it the other way around? Or does Ultron take over the Hulkbuster armor? I guess we'll just have to wait until the film comes out in 2015. In any case, it should make for a pretty heart-pounding sequence!
Karen: Today is also the 83rd birthday of The Man, William Shatner. May he keep on trekkin'.
Friday, March 21, 2014
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? Superman 423
Superman #423 (September 1986)(cover by Curt Swan and Murphy Anderson)
"Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, part one"
Alan Moore-Curt Swan/George Perez
Doug: Well, that was more than I expected! I bought both of the last issues of the original Superman titles off the newsstand ahead of the release of John Byrne's Man of Steel mini-series that would almost completely reimagine the character. But upon doing the re-read out of my copy of the deluxe edition hardcover Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? (from which I'll be providing scans for these two reviews) I am quite sure that I never read these almost 30 years ago as new comics! I say that because when I set my eyeballs to doing their thing I was pretty taken aback at the content of both today's issue as well as the climax in Action Comics #583. This wasn't one of yer daddy's Superman yarns!
Karen: I've never been a Superman fan. Never read the title consistently. I picked up the Byrne issues for a while but they never felt right. Most of my exposure to Superman came through other books, like Justice League, or through cartoons or the TV show or films. I liked the character in his purest sense -the all-powerful, benevolent being who chose to do good -but never found him all that interesting to read about. I grabbed these issues off the stands and read them right in the midst of everything changing at DC, what with the Crisis happening. This two-part story made me care about Superman like I never had before -all when it was too late.
Doug: I'll tell you the first thing that took me aback -- the art! Now Curt Swan is as comfortable on Superman as a cozy-yet-worn sweater. But I'd neglected to look at the creator credits as I began reading, and by the time I got to the third page I was grimacing somewhat at the pictures. Something just wasn't right -- and I knew Murphy Anderson had inked the cover. But this definitely wasn't the "Swanderson" team on the inside! Wow -- it was George Perez! Now I'll stand in any line that exists for heaping the highest praises on Perez -- one of the all-time masters. Yet, this really didn't feel right. To be honest, I never did warm to this combination. At times I could really see Swan; at other times Perez. In the middle was some general mish-mashing, and that was troublesome for me. Honestly, in the second installment Kurt Schaffenberger's inks were much more in tune with the "classic" Superman. My two cents.
Karen: I had the same problems with the Perez-inked Swan art. I thought he over-powered Swan. Although I love Perez, I don't think it was a great decision to have him ink Swan. I would rather have seen a more classic look for this tale. Despite not being a Superman fan, when I think of Supes, Swan is the artist I think of.
Doug: Agreed. And I don't want to take away from Neal Adams, Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez, or any of the other fine Bronze Age artists who worked on the Man of Steel. But Swan's the most easily-identified Superman artist for me.
Karen: And can we also talk about the writer? Does Alan Moore instantly come to mind when one thinks of Superman? Certainly not to me. I'm reading this out of the TPB, and the introduction by Paul Kupperberg says that outgoing long-time Superman editor Julius Schwartz had originally tried to get Superman co-creator Jerry Siegel to come back to write the book. But there were legal problems with that (no surprise). Alan Moore was having breakfast with Schwarz and reportedly grabbed him by the neck and demanded to write the story! Schwarz apparently thought it was a good idea (or was terrified of Moore) and agreed. Of course, Moore was a rising star at the time, so it makes sense from that aspect. But he was also someone who was involved (more than a little!) in breaking down the old vision of super-heroes and constructing the new, darker age -the exact opposite of what the original Superman was. It's an odd selection to my mind. Why not get a writer with a long association with the character, someone who believes in and respects the concepts the character was built upon? But you know what? It works. It works beautifully.
Doug: Didn't Moore jokingly (I hope) say to Julie that if he considered anyone else to write the story, he'd (Moore) kill him!? Julie Schwartz was a very nice man; I can't speak for Alan Moore. But I agree -- Moore did seem to be an odd choice. But, maybe in the midst of all of the rebooting hullabaloo, the marketing department wanted some guaranteed home runs. I guess this would qualify, although the creative combination does strike me as strange.
Doug: So we open at the home of Lois Lane... er, Lois Elliot. Our story is set 10 years after the alleged death of Superman, and the Daily Planet is writing a commemorative story about the woman who knew him best. Lois invites Tim Crane, the reporter assigned to the story, inside. Crane sets up his recording equipment while Lois gets them some coffee.
I had to laugh, as this story takes place in 1997 -- to see the art team attempt to come up with some not-so-crazy futuristic features of the Elliot home is humorous. But it doesn't take long to establish the theme for Alan Moore's last Superman story: death.Karen: The design aspects of the art is the one place you can really see Swan come through. The bizarre domed coffee machine just screams of a 1960s view of 'the future.' Same for the outfits of Lois and the reporter.
Doug: Lois begins to answer Crane's question about the last years of Superman's life by telling of the deaths or deactivations of Superman's rogues gallery -- gone were Brainiac, the Parasite, Terra-Man... and Luthor hadn't been heard from in quite some time.
Things seemed to be looking up in a way, until Superman returned from a space mission to find Bizarro in a frenzy of destruction. In his twisted, imperfect mind, he was destroying the Earth. He had begun by destroying his own homeworld before wreaking havoc on Earth. Superman attempted to reason with his imperfect duplicate, but to no avail. Bizarro exposed himself to blue Kryptonite, which proved fatal. Lois remarked that his rage had gone from genocidal to homicidal to suicidal. Another thorn in Superman's side, gone.Karen: Bizarro had always been -at least to me -a joke. I recall my uncle had a big 80-page Giant that was all about the Bizzaro world and I must have read that comic several times over, and it was just the craziest, goofiest stuff. Yes, Bizarro was powerful. But he wasn't evil, just wacky. But here, he's a disturbing imperfect copy of Superman -a reminder of all the horrible things the Man of Steel could do if he wasn't the good, decent person we've always known. In his efforts to be the most 'imperfect' version of Superman that he can be, Bizarro has wiped out his world -that charmingly funky square planet populated with all those other weirdos.
One of the most silly, innocent parts of the Superman mythos has plunged into a very dark place.Doug: Crane next asked about the "unmasking" of Clark Kent, and Lois began to speak of it. While on the WGBS news set with Lana Lang, Clark received two packages. The smaller of the two was brought into the studio and opened. Inside were several Superman action figures -- but that seemed alive! They possessed heat vision and immediately set about destroying the set. Several fired at once on Kent, burning his clothes right off his body, revealing the blue and red costume of Superman underneath! Lana gasped, and then remarked that all these years, Clark Kent was Superman!
The toys then say what all of us have been thinking -- how could everyone be fooled by a comb over and a pair of glasses? Superman deduces that this is the work of the Toyman and the Prankster, and asks how they got through his secret identity. They tell him to open the other, larger package. Using his body to shield his friends and co-workers, Superman moves toward the box. When he touches the lid, it springs open to reveal a very dead Pete Ross. Ross had been brainwashed (could we potentially read "tortured" into this?) and had given up Clark's ID. Now Ross was dead. Superman picked up the frequency the villains were using to broadcast, and flew at super speed to their headquarters. After a dust-up, they were sent to jail. Can we assume that Superman fought off any urges toward an eye-for-an-eye avenging of his childhood pal?Karen: "Prankster... Toyman... Do you know what radio waves look like?" When Superman says this, the art team manages to convey the deeply serious tone that's needed here. And the implications -he can see radio waves! - once again lead us back to the era of the god-like Superman, who can do almost anything. His restraint with the two villains who slew his friend is remarkable, but again, this is what we've come to expect from our mysterious benefactor, isn't it? He always does what's right, he never acts out of anger or self-obsession. That's why he belongs to an age that is passing (back in 1986). He's not the Superman who would turn towards a foe, eyes blazing red, and say, "Burn!"
Doug: What did you think of Moore poking fun at the secret ID trope? On the one hand, I suppose the comment about the glasses and combed hair was a tribute to the trope, but on the other I found it to be Moore speaking sarcastically.
Karen: Agreed. I also thought it was turning a page again on that era -an innocent time when no one was ever really in danger.
Doug: At Pete Ross's funeral, Superman detailed how he'd always feared this could happen. Perry White told him not to fret -- most of his enemies were now dead! But Superman couldn't shake the fact that he had no answer to the question, "what had turned a bunch of bozos into killers?" Lois told Crane that what Superman didn't say but that everyone was thinking was: what if Luthor and Brainiac did somehow come back? Now? Sceneshift to the Arctic, where we catch up with Luthor on a hunt for Brainiac; or at least, what was left of Brainiac. Using some sort of detector, Luthor located his former partner's head. Luthor gloats that he'll at last be able to open up Brainiac's skull and see about the alien technology. Not so fast! Suddenly small pieces of metal fly from Brainiac's skull and begin to adhere to Luthor's head! Before he knows it, Luthor no longer controls his mind or body -- Brainiac is using him as a host! Pledging revenge on Superman, Brainiac controls Luthor's body to begin walking. But to where?
Karen: The one thing I thought odd about this sequence is that they say once his identity was revealed, Superman dropped his Clark Kent side. So here we see Moore subscribing to the notion that Kent is a fiction and Superman is the real identity. I have difficulty with that. He was raised on Earth, by the Kents. I think there's a lot more of Clark in him than Kal-El. The question Superman asks at the funeral is a good one: what is compelling his old foes to act in such violent ways? One is tempted to say that it's simply they feel the new, 'grim and dark' age coming on. But we'll see. The scene with Luthor and Brainiac was almost comical -Luthor always sees himself as in charge. Not this time, pal!
Doug: You raise a question about heroes with dual identities that really stretches across the genre -- is Ben Grimm the Thing first, or Ben Grimm? Is Batman Bruce Wayne, or the Dark Knight? Which is the dominant personality? It's worth considering for most characters.
Doug: Back at Lois Elliot's house, she tells Crane a story of another tragedy that took place just days after the Ross funeral. On a sweltering day thousands of people had gathered outside the Daily Planet building.
Suddenly, several of them ripped open their shirts to reveal the insignia of Metallo! The doppelgangers begin to scale the outside of the building, pledging to kill the friends of Clark Kent (see -- there's a whole lot of killing going on or being discussed here!). Jimmy Olsen uses his signal watch to call Superman, and the Man of Steel arrives in time to save a falling Lois. But Supes doesn't head back into the offices to engage this Metallo army. Instead, he flies Lois to the roof and begins to generate static on the column of the giant Daily Planet sculpture. Polarizing the sculpure, Superman uproots it and uses it as a giant magnet to attract the super-baddies; they were successfully rehumanized later.Karen: There are a couple of things I really enjoyed in this scene, which was almost a throwaway scene, considering the no-name quality of these villains. One, Moore has Lois describe Superman streaking past her as "a violet comet," because he was flying so fast, the reds and blues of his suit blurred together. That's something so minor, yet a detail a person would notice. Two, the way Superman solves the problem, by magnetizing the Daily Planet globe, and as Lois puts it, magnetizing it just enough to attract the attackers but not the cars in the street below, once again demonstrates his intellect and god-like nature. He doesn't have magnetic powers? So what, he'll basically give himself magnetic powers by rubbing the iron rod so fast he makes a magnet. The guy is just incredible.
Doug: As the Legion will be along shortly in this tale, it's interesting that you mention Superman's problem-solving abilities. I don't recall in any of the Legion of Super-Heroes stories I read as a kid that Brainiac-5 ever deferred to Superboy (I could be wrong). Here, Superman needs no higher-up to fix things -- he has solutions already in mind.
Doug: Superman decided that he needed to take action, with the attacks against him coming closer together and more threatening. He told all of his closest friends and co-workers that he would take them to the Fortress of Solitude, where he could better defend them if it came to that. Perry White's wife, Alice, was included even though she and Perry were on the "outs". Once at the Fortress, everyone began to settle in when Krypto arrived. Lois thought this was strange, as the pooch had been gone for several years. Back in Metropolis, Brainiac had managed to reconstruct his ship and had used it to spirit the Kryptonite Man to the city in search of the Man of Steel. But Superman was far away, getting his guests settled. As he talked to Krypto a bright light suddenly appeared in the room. It was a time bubble from the 30th century bearing Supergirl, Brainiac-5, Invisible Kid, and the three founding members of the Legion of Super-Heroes -- Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, and Cosmic Boy. I thought it was interesting that they were wearing their Silver Age uniforms rather than the Cockrum/Grell re-designs.
Karen: The Fortress of Solitude and Krypto are more parts of a by-gone time.
While the Fortress seemed to magnify Superman's godlike nature, I always felt Krypto bought him down to Earth. Is there anything that humanizes us more than sitting, talking to our dogs? I also noted that the Legion were in older outfits -I assume this meant they were coming from an early point in their history. Or perhaps the simpler explanation is that this is simply how they looked when Curt Swan was drawing the Legion.Doug: Brainy says to Superman that they felt like dropping in because they thought he could use a friend. Superman thinks that's a little odd, and then has a moment alone with Brainy. Supes sort of lets him have it for bringing Supergirl, as Kara Zor-el had died in the recent Crisis. Poor Kara -- this one asks her cousin if she has grown up to be a pretty Superwoman in 1986; Superman assures her that she's beautiful. I'm telling you, by this point in the story I was about overwhelmed with the morbidity of it all. This was really a pretty tough read! I was no huge Superman fan back in the day; in fact, I've said often how much I loved Superboy yet stayed away from Superman comics. But most of us know the mythos, so to see this gradual culling of the layers of Superman's life was becoming difficult. Brainy turns Superman's chastisement right back on him, asking if Superman knew of something bad that would happen in the future if he would inform the Legionnaires. Superman said "no", so accepted Brainiac-5's gift of a small sculpture of Superboy holding a Phantom Zone projector.
Karen: The scenes with the Legion and Supergirl are just heart-wrenching. Like you, I was not a Superman fan per se but I was a Superboy and the Legion fan, and of course, we'd just had Supergirl tragically die in Crisis on Infinite Earths, so seeing the Legion muddle through what is obviously their final good-bye is hard to take. And they may be young but really? They brought Kara? Poor Clark! No wonder he snaps at Brainy. Brainy's apology isn't too good either. Does he really need to mention "some unavoidable doom awaiting" the Man of Tomorrow?
Doug: As the Legion was preparing to depart, Supergirl asked Superman why she could have materialized in an era in which she existed. Superman tried to brush off the question, saying that the Supergirl of 1986 had gone into the past. Supergirl accepted that, and as Brainy encouraged the team to board the bubble Superman was left with the sense that they'd come to see him for the last time. Lois narrated to Crane that when she woke the next morning, before the siege began, she knew something was wrong -- Superman looked funny. He looked as if he'd been crying.
Karen: That line, and that final shot of Superman alone with Krypto, his head in his hand, well, it was like all the air had been knocked out of me when I saw it.
Doug: Despite my reservations about the level of violence in this story, I have to say that it was told with integrity to the history. I thought the Legion scene was especially emotional, and I'm sure if I hadn't been a dope and had actually read these two issues when I bought them I'd have been even more moved by Kara's questions. Curt Swan's art was also comfortable as I said at the top, but man -- were there times when it seemed like it was all-Perez and/or all-Swan. I guess you can't lose with that, but it was overall weird. So having read the conclusion, I can tell you that I'm already looking forward to writing that up and my partner's color commentary! We'll be back with that in two weeks!
Thursday, March 20, 2014
Face-Off: The Consumer Division, Plus Indiana Comic Con Update
Doug: Today's Face-Off is sort of a do-it-yourselfer in that you'll be the ones to provide the conversation pieces. We're looking for those products that have a major (MAJOR) competitor, and you're voicing of a true love for one over the other -- and never shall you use the other! Some examples follow:
UPDATE
Doug: Those of you who have been around over the past week will recall my consternation with the way large crowd numbers were handled last Saturday at the inaugural Indiana Comic Con. When I got home from Indianapolis, I penned a letter of concern -- not really complaint, as my partner insists I can sometimes be too diplomatic -- to the contact address found at the bottom of the Indy Con website. I received a reply yesterday morning, and I feel it's my duty as a complainer (er, concerner?) to share it with you. Here goes, me first:
I want to thank you for the wonderful guest list that your
organizers/promoters put together for the Indy Con. I was very much
looking forward to meeting several Bronze Age creators - it was
refreshing to see a guest list with some of the "old guys" as opposed to
current creators.
That being said, I arrived at 12:30 to the Convention Center after a drive from the Chicago south suburbs. The line was easily over 1000 people long, and ticket sales had already been cut off. That was incredibly frustrating, as it is hard to believe that demand was that grossly underestimated. After waiting for a short time and listening to the ushers make a few announcements, I turned around and went back home.
Hopefully if the Con is held again next year, it will be larger and better able to accommodate the fans. I would very much like to attend, as I know that Indy would have had a much nicer feel than WizardWorld Chicago. Your prices were incredibly fair, and parking is always so much more affordable in Indy than in the Chicago area. This had so much potential, but I fear that a lot of revenue was left in the concourse on Saturday afternoon.
Best wishes,
That being said, I arrived at 12:30 to the Convention Center after a drive from the Chicago south suburbs. The line was easily over 1000 people long, and ticket sales had already been cut off. That was incredibly frustrating, as it is hard to believe that demand was that grossly underestimated. After waiting for a short time and listening to the ushers make a few announcements, I turned around and went back home.
Hopefully if the Con is held again next year, it will be larger and better able to accommodate the fans. I would very much like to attend, as I know that Indy would have had a much nicer feel than WizardWorld Chicago. Your prices were incredibly fair, and parking is always so much more affordable in Indy than in the Chicago area. This had so much potential, but I fear that a lot of revenue was left in the concourse on Saturday afternoon.
Best wishes,
Hi Doug,
Thanks for the email and the feedback. Lots of attendees are angry that they weren't able to get in and sent very angry emails, not being able to see or reason past their personal frustration. So I greatly appreciate your calm and reasoned email. Thanks for that.
I’m very sorry that you were disappointed. Believe me, we were also disappointed in having to turn attendees away at the door. That brings us nothing but heartbreak.
The room could accommodate roughly 6,000-7,000 attendees. It simply wasn’t designed to accommodate Saturday’s roughly 15,000 attendee turnout. Unfortunately, there is no way to know how many people will show up the day-of to purchase tickets at the door. Lots of people cite Gen Con without reflecting that Gen Con has been around since the late 60s and has over four decades of attendance figures to plan with. This was the first Indiana Comic Con with no past attendance record to work with.
If you attended on Friday or Sunday, you would have seen a very organized and streamlined ticketing system because the attendance on those days was within the hall’s capacity and therefore within our ability to serve. We actually tried to obtain more space, but there were
other events going on as well—the convention center was unable to sell us additional space for 2014. We had to be creative and do the best we could with the space available to us.
Our space for 2015 is currently over 3x the size of this year’s space—and we are trying to get even more space than that. I hope you’ll return next year and watch the convention grow!
Thanks,
Stephen
Thanks for the email and the feedback. Lots of attendees are angry that they weren't able to get in and sent very angry emails, not being able to see or reason past their personal frustration. So I greatly appreciate your calm and reasoned email. Thanks for that.
I’m very sorry that you were disappointed. Believe me, we were also disappointed in having to turn attendees away at the door. That brings us nothing but heartbreak.
The room could accommodate roughly 6,000-7,000 attendees. It simply wasn’t designed to accommodate Saturday’s roughly 15,000 attendee turnout. Unfortunately, there is no way to know how many people will show up the day-of to purchase tickets at the door. Lots of people cite Gen Con without reflecting that Gen Con has been around since the late 60s and has over four decades of attendance figures to plan with. This was the first Indiana Comic Con with no past attendance record to work with.
If you attended on Friday or Sunday, you would have seen a very organized and streamlined ticketing system because the attendance on those days was within the hall’s capacity and therefore within our ability to serve. We actually tried to obtain more space, but there were
other events going on as well—the convention center was unable to sell us additional space for 2014. We had to be creative and do the best we could with the space available to us.
Our space for 2015 is currently over 3x the size of this year’s space—and we are trying to get even more space than that. I hope you’ll return next year and watch the convention grow!
Thanks,
Stephen
Doug: Sounds good to me. Schedule permitting, I will definitely try to go to this con again next year. However, I'm doing a little head-scratching at one major issue -- the tickets were super-affordable at $20 apiece. Do you think that when they double the size of the show (obviously increasing their rental fees for the space) that tickets will remain the same price? Or do you think that the revenue they lost on Saturday, once realized, will make up for it? Interesting marketing call. We shall see.
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Wednesday, March 19, 2014
Kamandi Archives Volume 1
Kamandi Archives, Volume 1 (Oct. 2005, DC Comics)
Written, Drawn, and Edited by Jack Kirby
Inked and Lettered by Mike Royer
Karen: This hardback archive edition collects the first ten issues of Jack Kirby's post-apocalyptic series that began in 1972. I had read two random Kamandi comics in the past but otherwise had little contact with the character, beyond his rare appearances in other books. I got the general concept -the last boy on Earth (well, not actually true), a world now ruled by intelligent, mutated animals. But I'd never really read the series and I was curious about it. Knowing it was at least slightly influenced by Planet of the Apes, one of my favorite film series, also encouraged me to look into it. Finally I saw this archive edition at a reasonable price and grabbed it. Instead of going over each issue I'll discuss my general impression of the series.Karen: My overall impression is one of many ideas but little structure. As usual Kirby excels at coming up with new creations. He populates his new world with all sorts of animal-men, each with their own characteristics: the gorilla men are crude and brutal (not to mention ugly in a manner not unlike the Toho films' King Kong); the tiger men are aggressive conquerors; the lion-men are valiant conservationists who try to preserve mankind; and so on. In a twisted parallel to Beneath the Planet of the Apes, the only intelligent humans surviving on Earth don't worship atomic bombs -they are atomic bombs! These mutant humans possess some sort of atomic power that allows them to change form into metallic supermen. They come from a place called 'Tracking Site' which for an unexplained reason resembles a miniature version of Earth floating somewhere above South America, and was apparently run by scientists and engineers from NASA before the Great Disaster struck. This Great Disaster is never spelled out, and actually as a mystery could serve to drive the story, but at least in these early issues, is relatively untouched. That's the maddening thing about it all: there's so much here that tantalizes, but never seems to really go anywhere.
Karen: I will say that the art is solid, with Kirby still producing some very strong work. I got the feeling he was enjoying himself creatively on these first ten issues. There are some wonderful epic vistas and imaginative character designs.Some of it definitely feels derivative though. Besides Planet of the Apes, Kirby also borrows from King Kong with a story involving a giant man ape ('Tiny') who becomes fond of Kamandi. Actually, Kirby recycles some of his own concepts if you think about it -the animal men have a lot in common with the New Men of the High Evolutionary from Thor back at Marvel, for example.
Karen: Kamandi himself is a cipher. He leaves his underground bunker (Command D -get it?) where he lived with his grandfather, to explore the world above, a world he had only known through stories and microfilm records. When he returns to his home he finds his grandfather killed by invading wolf-men. He decides to continue his explorations, but there never seems to be any rhyme or reason to his travels. He never expresses a personality beyond being something of a hot-head. There's no emotional life to the character. I'm not saying every comic character has to be a Peter Parker and cry in his beer every issue, but there has to be some sort of inner life, something going on that drives the protagonist and makes the reader take an interest in them. There's just nothing there with Kamandi. He's a blank slate. He seems to exist only as a vehicle to move from one place to another, from one idea to the next, so that different concepts can get shown off. He has no stake in anything.
| It wouldn't be right to leave out this Kirby collage from issue 9 |
Tuesday, March 18, 2014
Monday, March 17, 2014
Marvel Masterworks Breaking News
Doug: I saw this on Twitter earlier in the day and could hardly contain myself. I don't know that I'm in the market for this, but could easily sell the Masterworks I already have in anticipation of replacing them with this special edition Marvel 75th Anniversary lot. Make the jump for all of the details. At the bottom of the article you'll find links to Tales of Wonder's website for pre-ordering information. Their pre-sell price is outstanding and does make me wonder who likes me enough to buy this for my birthday...?
Mutants and Masked Marauders: Captain America 173
Captain America #173 (May 1974)(cover by Gil Kane)
"The Sins of the Secret Empire!"
Steve Englehart-Sal Buscema/Vince Colletta
Doug: Welcome back to the halfway point in our series of reviews of the epic "Secret Empire" storyline. In today's issue the Empire is finally exposed, and a slew of guest-stars are on hand to deepen the plot.
Along the way we'll also inspect the lives of the X-Men in the interim period between X-Men #66 and G-S X-Men #1 as well as just what the heck Cyclops's eyebeams are supposed to be able to do! Doug: If you recall, when last we left our merry band of fugitives, Professor X, Cyclops, and Marvel Girl had rescued Captain America and the Falcon from a fracas against Banshee in of all places Nashville, Tennessee! Cap and Falc had hitchhiked their way to the Music City in search of clues to the origin of their recent nemesis Moonstone. However, they'd by chance stumbled upon Banshee who had heard the recent bad press around Cap. Assuming Cap was their to convert him to the "dark side", Sean Cassidy engaged first and probably didn't plan to ask questions later. Well, the X-Men were in pursuit of Banshee to try to save him from being kidnapped as many of their mutant brethren had been when they got involved in the superhero scrum. Got all that? You'd better, because today's ish races at about 300 mph!
Karen: That's a nice summary, partner! This story is getting so complicated, you need a diagram to keep it all straight!
Doug: We open with an order to our heroes to raise 'em high! Now what...? How about Nick Fury and his best agents of SHIELD? The good guys aren't surrounded, but Fury has come with quite a force. But as we've seen in previous installments, Cap's in no mood to be held in custody again. With an assurance from the X-Men that they will be Cap's and Falc's allies, they attack. Fury and the boys seem taken aback -- one has to wonder if they really thought Cap would surrender. And in another of those head-scratching panels, Marvel Girl levitates the Falcon (egad, he calls her "Marvel Mama"! "Mama"?? How old would she have been? 21?) so that he can get his flight on. What I still don't get is how he can fall yet rise again? Even if riding wind currents in a gliding fashion, you'd have to have the right winds at precisely the right times to do that -- am I wrong?
Karen: It's really quite mortifying to see the Falcon have to rely on someone to help him fly. Has any other so-called flying hero been treated so shabbily? Again, what were they thinking? And "Marvel Mama" - oh well, it was the 70s, I guess that covers a multitude of sins.
Doug: And then we get to one of the quandaries of today's story -- the workings of Cyclops's optic beams. On the cover above, you see him using his beams to melt a SHIELD agent's gun. His first use of the beams on the interior is to explode a tree trunk behind which the agents were seeking cover. But now, as our heroes need a diversion in order to escape, Cyclops fires his eyebeams into the brush... igniting it into a raging inferno! And from the looks of it, Cyke started a forest fire. So here's my beef: a) on the way to Nashville, the trucker who'd picked up Cap and Falc drove mostly through the rain, and b) the fire burned as if the ground was a tinder box. No way. My suspension of disbelief went right out the window on this one. But what of the more fundamental issue of the properties of Cyke's eyebeams? Wikipedia seemed to have a good collection of thoughts on the matter, so I've provided those for you here, complete with in-text references maintained:
Cyclops emits beams of energy from his eyes, described as "optic blasts", which have the appearance of red light and deliver massive concussive force. The beams cause no recoil or heat, but are tremendously powerful, and can be used to rupture steel plates and pulverize rock. The beams constantly emanate from his eyes involuntarily, and can generally only be stopped by his own eyelids, or by shielding his eyes with "ruby-quartz", a translucent mineral; Cyclops wears ruby-quartz as lenses in glasses or in his visor, which is generally the only way for him to safely see without inadvertently damaging his surroundings.The beams' involuntary nature has been explained as a psychological shortcoming that resulted from childhood trauma.[11][100] Cyclops can nevertheless manipulate the beams in several different ways, partially through the use of adjustable apertures in his eyewear that allow the beams to fire through their shielding at variable levels.
In addition to varying the beam width, height, and intensity, Cyclops has demonstrated a high degree of skill and accuracy in manipulating his optic blast. Cyclops is able to reflect the beam off hard and shiny surfaces.[13][101][102] This feat also demonstrates his intuitive sense of spatial geometry between objects.[13][101] The reflective qualities of the beams allows him to bounce the beam off many different surfaces in rapid succession. The effective range of his optic beam is approximately 2,000 ft. It has been observed to be focused tight enough to punch a pin hole through a coin,[103] drill through the trunk of a log,[104] and pierce the skin of the Blob.[105] Cyclops has shown the power of his optic blast by blasting through the walls of a hardened building,[106] tunneling through solid rock,[107] and blowing the top off a mountain.[38] Cyclops' force beams were measured by Iron Man to be almost 2 gigawatts.[108] Two gigawatts is about half the peak power output of the Doel Nuclear Power Plant and when Cyclops released this much energy he exceeded his control over his optic beam. With Cyclops unable to shut off his optic beam, Leech came to his aid and negated his mutant power.[108] Against other Marvel characters, Cyclops has been able to use his optic beam to knock Thor's Hammer from his hand.[109] He is known to be able to overload Bishop's energy absorption power and is revealed to never have willingly used more than a small fraction of his full potential due to his anxiety regarding his optic blast.[51]Doug: So that's how I thought they worked, and is representative of the action as we've known it from Dave Cockrum and John Byrne in the pages of the All-New, All-Different X-Men. Do you suppose the inconsistencies on display from Englehart and Buscema are due to the hiatus period of the Children of the Atom?
Karen: Yeah, it was very perplexing to see Cyclops portrayed as an ocular version of the Torch. I wonder if Sal Buscema drew him causing fires and Englehart just went with it?
I do think the hiatus might have had something to do with it. Doug: As Cap and the gang escape, Fury thinks something to himself that I also found curious -- he says, "I admit I don't like that cornball Avenger..." Really? I thought that was out-of-character, unless Fury was thinking only about the situation at hand. Anyway, Professor X then makes a statement that flies in the face of every Western movie ever made: "In here, Captain. We shan't be found in this deserted mine tunnel." Uh, yeah -- hey, dude, that's where everybody always hides out... We then get a nice melding of other Englehart plotlines to this one. Stainless Steve was concurrently writing Captain America, the Avengers, and the Beast's tales in Amazing Adventures. In true Marvel Universe fashion, Englehart was able to blend these three outlets together and funnel it all into this Secret Empire storyline. Pretty clever, huh? Xavier remarks that he's been losing mutants left and right (funny... sounds like the plot of the aforementioned G-S X-Men #1), and has traced the crimes to the Secret Empire.
He states that domination is the goal of the S.E., and propaganda is their game. Cap says it all fits, and thanks the Professor for the info. while agreeing to team-up with the X-Men. Xavier welcomes the aid, as he has a lead they could not follow -- a former girlfriend of Hank McCoy.Karen: Fury's attitude does seem odd, but looking back over previous issues, he and Cap had been having problems for quite some time. This was a real rough patch in their relationship. So if you were a reader who'd been with the book for the last couple of years, Nick's thoughts might seem harsh but maybe not that surprising.
Karen: Englehart really was good at weaving so many disparate storylines together, wasn't he? I always wonder how much was planned in advance and how much of it came to him after the fact. Whatever the case, it worked out very well. And Xavier was a terrible headmaster! His students were always getting abducted.
Not a great tactician either -he's down to three students and he sends them out on solo missions! Of course he loses one (Iceman). Good grief.Doug: We sceneshift to the Dallas branch of the Brand Corporation, where McCoy had worked and had met a Linda Donaldson. She, we quickly learn, is working for the Secret Empire and refers to herself by a number -- just like members of the Sanitation Crew had done over the previous two issues. Donaldson enters her car and as she begins to drive away from the plant contacts "the Masters". She uses a high-tech gadget to report that she continues to fail at stealing the "electron-gyro" due to heavy security. She's admonished for failing and told to find a way. Miffed, she pulls into her apartment complex where she's suddenly attacked by Cyclops! Hiding in the shadows, however, are a couple of blue-collar drifters... by the names of Sam and Steve! So this was Xavier's plan to dupe Donaldson and to gain access to the Secret Empire. All players carry out their roles to perfection, and after Cyke is "chased off" Linda Donaldson gets to the introductions. She figures that "Roger Stevens" and "Willie Samuels" are pretty dense, so has them followed to the flophouse they're bunking in. As the two incognito heroes bide their time, there comes a knock on the door.
Karen: I thought it was a little clunky when Englehart had Donaldson doing the mental recap. But hold on -suddenly our heroes are all in Dallas? They were just in Nashville! But there's no explanation for it. They had such a tough time hitch-hiking to Nashville, but now they're just magically in Dallas? I think probably what happened is they caught a ride in the X-Men's bizarre-looking jet (it ain't the Blackbird) that we see later, but that's entirely skipped over here. Again, perhaps a lack of communication between Sal and Steve, or just trying to cram a lot into one issue?
Doug: Had I been able to speak to the Stainless One in Indy this past weekend (grrrr.....), one of the things I was going to ask him is whether or not he worked with full scripts or Marvel Method. I would like to know. Maybe someday I'll have the opportunity to speak directly to Englehart. But in the meantime, I did ask Gerry Conway on Twitter yesterday and here is his reply:
Doug: So that makes Cyke's eyebeams, et al. even more curious to me if there are two creators in on a deal like that.
Doug: "Willie" opens the door to find a man in a business suit, but wearing a huge hood over his head and shoulders and bearing the number 13. He tells the two men that he represents the Secret Empire and has a job for them -- steal the electro-gyro (apparently we lost an n from first mention to second mention) from the Brand Corporation. "Willie" begins to ask a question, but is told that they can make $10 grand for the heist -- $5Gs now, and the balance upon delivery. The two down-on-their-luckers agree to the contract. When they get ready to depart the dorm, however, they're in costume. I wasn't clear on the explanation that Cap gave Falc -- maybe you can clue me in, partner?
Karen: No, it wasn't clear to me either. Cap says he'd normally just ask for the gizmo, but since the smear campaign has turned people against him, he can't take the risk of doing that. I suppose they switched to use their weapons (wings and shield) and let's face it, we'd rather see them in costume!
Doug: At the Brand Corporation Cap and Falc make easy entry to the facility and even on into the room that holds the gadget. But wouldn't you know it -- security was a little more sophisticated than planned and the guards now level their guns on our heroes. Cap's getting a lot of experience at this sort of thing, so he and Falc bullrush their would-be assailants and storm out with the electro-gyro in hand. Reinforcements turn up with high-powered weapons, but Cap evens the odds by using his shield to cut through a water pipe in the sprinkling system. I had to wonder... this sprinkler system contained as much water pressure as the garden hose at Jennifer Walter's house -- like a tidal wave! Near a window, Falc tells Cap to grab his arm (no, ya juvenile - not "pull my finger"). They jump through the window and Falc uses his new wings to spirit the pair to safety. Back inside Brand, the factory manager tells security to stop their pursuit.
It seems Cap had left a note in the electro-gyro room saying they'd only take it for a short period and would return it unharmed. The manager believed him, even while the radio played more propaganda from C.R.A.P. (that never gets old!).Karen: I was amazed Falcon could stay in the air with Cap hanging off of him. I figured he'd plummet like a rock. OK, OK, I'm just a little disappointed with his wings...
Doug: Oh, you're more than just a little disappointed! Me, too. Hours later "Willie and Roger" deliver the electron-gyro (found our n) to Number 13. He's ecstatic to get it, and exclaims that these men are definitely Secret Empire material. He bids them to follow him outside, where he fires a ray from a pistol, seemingly cracking open a boulder to display a quinjet-looking airship. After a flight of undetermined length, the ship sets down in the desert. A cactus stands in for the bust of William Shakespeare as tilting it reveals the steps to the cave lair of the Secret Empire. Down go our protagonists with Number 13, as Cap wonders if they can fool a group with this much power and resources for very long. But up on the surface another ship lands -- a ship bearing the X-Men. Xavier's tense, as he says to Cyke and Marvel Girl that Captain America and the Falcon may never emerge from beneath the desert floor!
Karen: Wait -what? They get in a rocket ship and fly to a desert and move a fake cactus to get in a secret underground lair? This is definitely 1940s grade C serial territory! This is one of the weaker parts of this story. Overall, it's intriguing and exciting, but this detour with the X-Men seems to have gone off-course to me. I'm anxious to get back to the main part of the story, with Cap taking it to Harderman and Moonstone. Thankfully it looks like we're headed back that way.
Doug: So the plot thickens indeed! This has become very interesting, yet not overcrowded, with the addition of three members of the X-Men. I haven't felt that it's forced and so far it has served to add depth to they mysterious Secret Empire and how they fully tie-in with Harderman and Moonstone. That there are other mutants who have been kidnapped makes one wonder about how powerful the Empire is -- do they have other super-powered agents in addition to Moonstone? Why do they want the mutants specifically? A thought on the art: I thought this was Vinnie Colletta's weakest effort of the four issues we've seen him over Sal Buscema. I really didn't think he did Sal any favors in this issue; in fact, I thought he took away from what's been a really solid, typical effort from Sal over the course of this arc. Englehart's script seems to have some holes in it here-and-there, and some elements of it (Cyke's eyebeams stand out) just seem ill-researched. But overall he has kept the story moving along, and there is suspense building as the stakes become clear and indeed get higher as we move through. I don't have a problem calling this one a Bronze Age classic.
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