Sunday, July 22, 2012

Bracketology: The Elite Eight







Doug:  Don't tell me there won't be some hand-wringing on some of these votes!  Something revered is definitely going to go by the wayside by Wednesday evening.  Today's question --

Of the stories that remain, please discuss when you first read them -- did you purchase them off the spinner racks, or did you come to them much later?

Saturday, July 21, 2012

Doug's Favorites: Thor 147

Thor #147 (December 1967)
"The Wrath of Odin!"
Stan Lee-Jack Kirby/Vince Colletta

Doug:  We've all commented on that book or two we've read and read again, until the cover literally fell off of it.  Today, and again next Sunday, I'll be taking you inside of a couple of yard sale finds from the mid-1970's.  In fact, these consecutive issues of Thor are among, if not, the first 12c books I ever owned.  And, rather than do our usual service in providing a nice cover from the folks at the Comic Book Database, I've decided to scan the one I'm reading -- gape if you will at the frayed edges, wrinkles, so-called "Marvel chipping", rolled spine, the places where the tape stuck to the cover and peeled away the color, etc... this is a well-loved book!  So let's have a peek inside:

Doug:  One of the reasons this book stands apart is that it was my entry level for so much of the Thor mythos.  At the time I first read this story I was fascinated with Greek mythology -- this comic then encouraged my entry to Norse mythology.  Inside these covers we'll find not only the base villainy (well, for what that's worth) of the Ringmaster and his Circus of Crime and evil Loki, but also Asgardian mainstays Odin, Sif and Balder, and the whole Asgard/Earth dichotomy.  I'm pretty sure I had had some solo-Thor exposure around this same time in the then-current mags, but let's face it -- with the adventure possibilities in this comic series, one could land just about anywhere and in any situation.  So all of this felt new to me.  Add in the fact that in the current issues of the time the art was by John Buscema and here we find the classic team of Jack Kirby and Vinnie Colletta and this story again could not have been more different.  So I was fully aware that I was in the middle of something much older (I'd have been only a year and a half old when this first saw the spinner racks), and somewhat seminal.

Doug:  We pick up the story right after Thor's battle with the aforementioned Ringmaster.  Trapped in a gallery of some unknown (to me) description, a dazed and confused Thor had been assisting Princess Python in the theft of an enormous golden bull. The ringing of police-fired bullets snaps the God of Thunder to his senses.  But we quickly learn that he has been stripped of his god-like control over the thunder and lightning, along with his immortality.  Still, with his wits now about him, Thor sees what he was doing and lifts the 5-ton statue back onto its base.  The police begin to read him his rights, when the Princess's giant snake suddenly finds her and spirits her away.  She seems to have a thing for Thor, but nonetheless joins her band of do-badders as they speed away.  And what of Thor?  Always one to do the right thing, he allows himself to be arrested.  And at the local precinct, after being interrogated, Thor surrenders the now-powerless Mjolnir.

Doug:  Cut to a hellish place full of Kirby Krackle, where we find the God of Lies holed up and awaiting his final judgement.  Loki has been banished from Asgard, yet still plots to gain revenge upon his half-brother.  Suddenly he is summoned to the Realm Eternal.  The All-Father Odin has deigned Loki be free once again, promising to do no further mischief.  At this point Sif and Balder enter the room and draw Odin's ire by questioning the wisdom of such a strategy.  Odin reminds them what happens to those who step on the royal piggies, as he shows them an image of Thor in jail on Earth.  Sif cries out for mercy, and Loki stalks off.  It's only about two panels later before he's on his way to torment his brother.

Doug:  Arriving on Earth, Loki disguises himself (in a Clark Kent sort of way) and posts Thor's bail.  His timing could not have been better, as Thor was about to mop the place with a tough who was making trouble.  Lucky for him...  Once outside, Thor is as dense as he's ever been, not recognizing Loki behind the shades.  But as they get into a car, the conversation takes a sinister turn and the ruse is quickly over.  The car disintegrates around them by some sort of magic, and before Thor can get his bearings Loki cold cocks him.  Remember, Thor is depowered by Asgardian standards -- he maintains his natural strength (he did just lift five tons after all), but this ain't yer daddy's Thor.  Loki knows it, and brings an endless intensely physical assault.  Thor fights valiantly, but is really no match for Loki's strength. 


Doug:  At about this same time, I had received the Bring on the Bad Guys tpb for Christmas.  In it were a couple of reprints of the "Tales of Asgard" series, so I knew Loki always relied on guile and rarely if ever dirtied his hands.  This was, as far as I was concerned, uncharted territory.

Doug:  The battle continues to rage, destroying much of the city block in the process.  At one point Thor leaps for a sign, as we might see Daredevil do, but Loki counters by sending a shockwave up the building wall, tumbling it and his brother.  As Thor lays stunned, Loki moves in for the kill.  Mustering one more defense, Thor clocks him good a couple of times.  But the effort exhausts him, and he stumbles into Loki's arms.  Lifting the Thunder God aloft, Loki prepares for the end.  However, a bright light appears behind him, and he whirls to find Balder and Sif, come to save their liege.  As they square off with Loki, we switch scenes to Asgard, where Odin has watched these events unfold.  Now blindingly angry, the All-Father sends a ray equivalent to the hand of justice, depowering all of the Asgardians who've defied him.  As they say, "to be continued"!

Doug:  I remember just having a blast reading this over 35 years ago.  As I said, there was a true sense of discovery, and Kirby was at his bombastic best.  Dabbling in DC's at the time, Stan Lee's over-the-top scripting was a real treat -- they just didn't write like this in the Batman or Teen Titans mags!  Additionally, these were the days when the Inhumans were again guesting in the Fantastic Four, and their solo series was in the offing.  This issue of Thor contains one of the Inhumans back-ups, telling their Kree origins.  Sentry-451 is featured in this story.  I have the complete back-up series in the first volume of the Inhumans Marvel Masterworks, and have hinted to Karen that if she has access to the same stories and is game, we could run a "Tales of Attilan" series.  We shall see.

Friday, July 20, 2012

The Dark Knight has Risen

Karen: It's out -let's hear your non-spoiler thoughts on the Dark Knight Rises! We'll lift the spoiler embargo on Sunday, if you want to wait.

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

In Praise of Reprints

Karen: When I was working on my recent Marvel Tales post, it got me to thinking about the importance of reprints to me (and probably many of you). The regular reprint books, the Treasury reprints, and books like Origins of Marvel Comics were exciting, because I was discovering the "history" of the Marvel Universe. Even though by 1972 what we knew as Marvel had only been around 11 years, it seemed like it was already a complicated web of interconnected characters and concepts. Characters in different books knew each other. They would recall past meetings when they got together, and if you hadn't read those stories already, it seemed very intriguing. Had Spider-Man really tried to join the Fantastic Four? Had the Avengers and the FF teamed up to fight the Hulk? Or what about finding out about past details of heroes you'd been reading about? What do you mean, Iron Man used to wear a big ugly suit of grey armor?The Hulk was grey too?


Karen: Finding out these 'facts' made the Marvel Universe seem almost real. There was depth to these characters and the world they lived in. The more I learned, the more I wanted to learn. It completely drew me in.

Karen: Now, the only exception to my enjoyment of reprints is when a reprint was run in a regular title, when the 'dreaded deadline doom' had struck. In the middle of an interesting storyline -like the Serpent Crown Affair in Avengers say - it could be annoying. But otherwise, they were great.




Doug:  At Karen's request, I'm going to drop a couple of statements.  I'll echo everything Karen said about the "big books", like the Treasuries and those wonderful paperbacks at left.  Those were anticipated Christmas gifts for several years in a row (five to be exact!).  However, I must confess a bit of snobbery about titles such as Marvel Tales, Marvel's Greatest Comics, etc.  At some point in my young life, an older kid told me to leave those alone -- they were reprints (like it was a four-letter word!).  He said they were worthless...  Of course, he must have had some knowledge of the burgeoning collector's market of which I had no perception.  As far as I knew, comic books came out every so often at the drug store.  But, not wanting to be dumb or uncool, I heeded his wise-beyond-his-years warning.  Silly me, as now reprints are the only comics I buy!  And like Karen, I grew really uptight when I opened a title that I regularly collected, only to be greeted by Kirby's blocky fingers and that annoying little box "Originally presented in XXX".  Funny how times change, isn't it?  I need to run an updated photo of my comics room, with the 270+ reprint/resource volumes!

Karen: In those early days, most of us didn't have a comic book shop to go to, and who had the money to buy all those old issues? The reprints were the same price as the regular books, and usually reprinted the story in its entirety (there were a few exceptions). Was it an easy way for Marvel to make some more money? Sure. But I look back on those books now as performing an invaluable service -teaching me about the Marvel universe I have so enjoyed for all my life.

Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Part Fourteen: Is Anyone Cold in Here?


Doug:  Now here's a post we haven't run in ages!  A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Karen and I had some great times checking out the sartorial non-splendor of everyone from Gambit to Hank Pym to Phantom Lady.  And speaking of Phantom Lady, we'd like to look at some equally-garish costumes today.  Yesterday we had a fun ride checking in on the Legion of Super-Heroes; today we'd like you to sound off on the costumes of the quite-groovy Dave Cockrum and Mike Grell eras.  As your art sample, we are running the cover to Back Issue! #61 (due out in mid-November) -- an all-treasuries retrospective!  Have fun with this, friends!

Doug:   By the way, we had a more general version of this conversation, though centered around the Legion, many months ago.  You can check it out by clicking here.

PS:  dbutler, this was in the queue a couple of weeks ago!  You must be clairvoyant in suggesting this post yesterday...


Monday, July 16, 2012

Giant-Size July: Legion of Super-Heroes 231


Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes #231 (September 1977)
"A Day in the Death of a World!"
Writer: Paul Levitz
Artist: James Sherman
Inker: Jack Abel

Karen: We probably haven't reviewed near enough Legion of Super-Heroes here at BAB. Although Doug and I are both Marvel-centric, Legion is a DC title we both are quite fond of and have fairly decent collections of. So to start rectifying this gap, we'll review this cool issue from 1977. While people typically mention Dave Cockrum, Mike Grell, or Keith Giffen when they talk about Legion artists, I want to sing the praises of this issue's artist, Jim Sherman. I think he does a really solid job, juggling a dozen costumed characters, depicting outer space, futuristic cities, and spaceships. Jack Abel's thin inks are not the greatest choice here (or anywhere, in my opinion), but the art is still very engaging and gets across the huge scale of the story. 

Doug: You are exactly right about having a nice Legion collection. In addition to a decent smattering of Silver- and Bronze Age "floppies", I also have the first 12 volumes of the Legion Archives. I am debating buying the recently-released 13th volume, as I have most of the books reprinted therein; however, if I can find a decent price at next month's Wizardworld Chicago I might be inclined to take the plunge.


Doug: I can't agree more about Jim Sherman's pencils in this book. Truthfully, when I realized that the book we'd chosen was just past Mike Grell's run, I was skeptical. After Grell departed there was an inconsistent run of artists, that in my opinion dampened my enjoyment of the title. 
But Sherman is just great here. I'd offer that, and I think many of you will know what I'm feeling, it still looks like a Bronze Age DC. But overall it's a great effort, with certain panels throughout done exceedingly well. As to Abel's inks, I felt he was hit-or-miss throughout the story. At times I found him "feathery" like Vinnie Colletta, but at other times I thought he added some mood to the piece with some nice blacks and zipatone. His portrayal of lighting in certain panels was really spectacular.

Doug: One more thing before we get to the plot synopsis -- I love face-off covers, and this one is cool.  Mon-el looks like he's about to dispense the hand of justice. Funny that Lightning Lad appears on the outside of the book, but is nowhere to be found inside.

Karen: I hadn't noticed that before but you're absolutely right! Guess it's hard to keep track of such a big group. We open with Karate Kid and Princess Projectra traveling to Earth in a star cruiser (definitely not the Legion cruiser we a
ll know and love). Projectra is getting rather frisky with KK while he's trying to pilot the ship. She's basically all over him. Let's face it, in the 70s at least, the Legion always had a very sexual edge to it. It was most obvious in the costume design, but it also appeared in more subtle ways -although this scene is anything but subtle! It sort of makes sense - a bunch of teen-agers hanging out together in their co-ed clubhouse, no adults around. In any case, before she can get anywhere, their ship is caught up in a tractor beam by a gigantic starship and pulled into its cargo hold. The two Legionnaires exit only to be quickly put down by two old enemies: Validus and Tharok of the Fatal Five.

Doug: As to Projectra's "friskiness", I just personally found the Legion in this era more than my budding adolescent hormones could handle. And Jim Sherman really added to my suffering. I think Validus is such a visually-interesting character. His head's just a big (empty) brain, but the wrinkles at the forefront mimic eyes. So I guess he's really blind? The toes/fingers thing he has going is a curiosity as well. Tharok on the other hand was always the least interesting of the Five.

Karen: We switch scenes to the planet Mo
rdan, where the Legion is assisting in a massive evacuation. It seems the planet's sun is going to go nova, and the Legion has about a million people they have to get to safety. Saturn Girl uses her telepathy to broadcast world-wide messages, while Ultra Boy, Mon-El, and Superboy put together space arks (they look a little like Lost in Space's Jupiter II), and Colossal Boy helps the Mordanites board the arks. In space, Brainiac 5, Sun Boy, and Element Lad try to slow down the sun's transformation into a supernova. Shadow Lass is also around, apparently to catch Saturn Girl when she collapses from straining her telepathy!

Doug: Everyone around here knows of my love of giant-sized characters, and Colossal Boy is no exception. There are some great panels at the beginning of this scene where the art team does a fantastic job with scale. Superboy floating on by to converse with Gim was a nice effect as well. Mon-el is my favorite Legionnaire -- can't beat that costume. Tell me -- you pick three characters and put 'em up against the Legion's Big Three. Tough call, huh?


Karen: Considering Superboy of this era had
almost limitless powers, and Mon-El was essentially the same deal, they're pretty hard to beat. Ultra Boy is like the icing on the cake.

Doug: Is Shadow Lass slightly more valuable than Duo Damsel? 

Karen: Slightly, but I've always been a sucker for blue characters! The solar crew is unexpectedly attacked by another member of the Fatal Five, the Emerald Empress. She kind of reminds me of the Enchantress over at Marvel -beautiful but completely heartless. There's one panel here that I would swear was copied from a photo, it looks so odd. It seems the sun going nova fits into the Fatal Five's plans, so the Empress does her best to kill the Legionnaires. But Brainiac Five imprison s the Emerald Eye in a force field, and Element Lad forms an intertron coating around the Empress (Inertron being the strongest substance in the universe). But the villainess still manages to break through that supposedly unbreakable substance and she's madder than ever.

Doug: All boys know that we shouldn't hit girls, but I always, always, wanted someone to just take out the Emerald Empress! Could. Not. Stand. Her. The Legion's Transuits are pretty nifty, but you'd think after 20 years in print they'd have somehow evolved the fishbowl space helmets...

Karen: Back on Mordan, Saturn Girl and Shadow Lass are searching through what appears to be a deserted village. Saturn Girl had received telepathic feelings of helplessness there, "But I don't understand why." The two women discover a group of abandoned children inside, and Shady chides Saturn Girl for being insensitive, and starts to have some girl talk with her about opening up when the entire hut comes crashing down around them. They get the kids out and find that Validus, Mano, and the Persuader are responsible. It doesn't look good for the two Legionnaires, but then the cavalry arrives in the form of Colossal Boy, Mon-El, and Ultra Boy. Colossal Boy lands a right cross to Validus and it's game on. Unfortunately for him, Validus is far stronger than he, and he starts taking a beating. Mon-El and Ultra Boy think they've eliminated the Persuader as a threat by tearing out the ground around him, leaving him trapped on a little island, but he quickly uses his atomic axe to negate gravity and cross the chasm. Really guys? That was your bright idea? 

Doug: I recall being very excited when the Legion's big-hitters arrived to rescue their girls. Mon-el's attack on the Persuader was topped only by seeing Big Gim taxing his flight ring to the max! You know, I'd think that through sheer numbers the Legion would easily overwhelm the Fatal Five, but the fact that many Legion members have powers only useful in a strategic, specific team-oriented mission evens the odds pretty quickly. In regard to Mon and Ultra Boy's strategy, Jo must not have been using his ultra-brain. By the way, Validus' kick to Colossal Boy's head seemed out-of-character. Finesse -- not from him.

Karen: As the fight goes down on Mordan, in space above, Tharok watches the battle on a view screen, as well as the fight between the Empress and the Legionnaires. Realizing this is taking too much time, Tharok beams a projection of himself to both battle grounds and tells the Legionnaires that if they do not surrender, he will kill two of their team-mates that he has captured (Karate Kid and the Princess, of course). Like a good villain, he explains that he is causing the super-nova, because Mordan will become a big chunk of priceless energite. Why? Who knows. But Tharok plans to use that wealth to buy whatever they need to make
their positions secure.

Doug: Aren't viewscreens incredible bits of technology? I mean, there are never any cameras, yet pictures always transmit to the super-baddie. How cool! Tharok's plan could have been torn from the 1966 Batman TV show. It's a wonder the book didn't end there and we had to come back on Thursday to see how it turned out.

Karen: The Legion is stunned by this terrible plan -all except one: Superboy. He's righteously angry. He zooms into space in a really nice set of panels by Sherman, heading straight for Tharok's ship. But he slams against it ineffectually, and goes falling back through the atmosphere towards Mordan, to land conveniently next to the Legionnaires. Tharok again repeats his threat to kill two of their group. The Legionnaires are defiant and continue to fight. Tharok then fires up his killer robot and sics it on Karate Kid and Princess Projectra. The Kid easily tears the thing apart. It really wasn't a very impressive robot to begin with -kind of spindly. Certainly no mandroid! Tharok is so sure of his robot's success, he turns back to his other viewscreens. This guy really needs to see some James Bond films. Of course, KK and Projectra soon make their way to Tharok. But Tharok contacts his partners on the planet, and the Empress, and all return to his ship just in time to keep Karate Kid from pounding the scientist into pulp. The duo are captured again.

Doug: I just love Superboy, and I could never stand Superman. I know that may be weird, but even to this day I can pick up a Legion book (or even Superboy's mag without a Legion appearance) but I won't touch a Silver- or Bronze Age Superman book. The splash page to Chapter 2 is really nice -- Validus looks like one bad dude! Hey -- who didn't want to be Karate Kid or Iron Fist back in these days?

Karen: They both had the high collars, which makes no sense when you're fighting. Nevermind, let's get back to the story. The Legionnaires on the planet return to the evacuation. Brainy has a plan, and he has Ultra Boy and Colossal Boy get inside a sphere that looks like a small asteroid. They use their flight rings to zip into space. Back on Tharok's ship, the Five gloat over their prisoners when suddenly the faux-asteroid comes crashing into the ship, breaching its hull. It seems Brainy gambled that Tharok's shield's would not be programmed against space debris, as this area of space was relatively devoid of such things. Colossal Boy and Ultra Boy hop out of the rock and start fighting again, and Karate Kid manages to break his bonds and join them. But suddenly, the viewscreen shows the sun go nova, earlier than expected. Tharok panics, and runs to his equipment, but the rest of the Legionnaires show up and the three man team of Superboy, Ultra Boy, and Mon-El manage to put Validus down, and the rest of the Five are also quickly dispatched. Brainy disarms Tharok's device, saying there's still time to save the Mordanites who haven't left yet. The Five realize that the explosion they saw was fake, and Tharok manages to trigger a self-destruct device. The Legionnaires flee into space, where Brainy's force bubble and Element Lad's oxygen-creating powers save them. The ship violently explodes seconds later.

Doug: So the asteroid Ultra Boy found came equipped with a sliding door? Hmmm... I thought Paul Levitz's script gave each Legionnaire a chance at the spotlight. I could tell from reading this that Levitz had some strong passion for these characters. The ending was pretty exciting; fast-paced for sure!

Karen: Back on Mordan, the evacuation is completed and the Legion board their own cruiser. Superboy explains to Karate Kid and Princess Projectra (and the reader) how the illusion of the sun going nova was created: using the powers of Shadow Lass, Sunboy, and Superboy. But Superboy isn't buying the death of the Fatal Five: he's certain they escaped, somehow. But he's determined to bring them to justice for what they did to Mordan. Makes sense, as the last survivor (give or take a few thousand) of Krypton.

Doug: DC's formula of a character explaining the plot twist to the reader was a hallmark of their magazines. It's somewhat quaint, although certainly not always necessary. But I can see myself back then on more than one occasion saying, "Ohhhh....".

Karen: I may have been a little hard on this story; it is formulaic and silly, but it was also a lot of fun to read. I don't think I noticed the flaws when I read it when I was 13. It was just exciting!




Sunday, July 15, 2012

Comic Con News: Armor from Iron Man 3


Karen: As revealed at Comic Con International, new armor for Iron Man 3:

Karen: What do you think? Personally, I think it's too much gold, and the gold is too dull. But let's hear your thoughts.


Bracketology: Sweet Sixteen


Doug:  Now we're getting somewhere!  I don't know that we've cut out a lot of chaff, as I'd wager that all of our nominees to start off were someone's favorite story.  And that leads us to today's question --

How many of you nominated a story/storyline that was truly one of your all-time favorites, and found yourself having to vote against it?  If you can recall, what did your fave lose out to?


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